Let's set our expectations. Hull will be a better side with these players gone, so I'm glad. Time for a clean start. For me, if Tickle does not knuckle down, stop whinging and sneering and stops trying to manage the team, he may return to the form of a couple of years ago where he could have progressed to the England 2nd row. But if Agar and the board don;t believe he will, no loss there also. My main point in this post is though - YES, some of these players will come back to bite us. This move will cause them to re-focus, and some will thrive in a new team. Carvell would not have the attitude and drive he has today, at Hull. He's gone stale. So when some of these (and Lee, Horne may be candidates) thrive, let's not blame Agar and the Board for getting rid, their time at Hull is over, both parties need a new future. As I advised my mate Peter the other night, your wife Jordan may well make a great wife for someone else mate, but she'll always been a Sl#t with you - you're better apart. He went to his guitar to reflect.............. today, we should all feel like Andre', and focus on the next date [Here endeth the lesson] (c) Melton's Bottom 2009

Stop stirring it - you know that war war is stupid and people are stupid.

Nice sentiment.

He'd make a good utility player for someone if he gets fit... maybe FC?

It will be very interesting to see where these players will end up.

Im normally quite a b@stard when it comes to business, but I think Motu could really use our help, he's obviously settled and his family are, he's shown more professionalism than many of the so-called "local lads".

Agreed and, surely, it would not distract anyone if he used our training and rehab facilities.