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| Quote Ian P="Ian P"I would rest the entire 1 st squad Friday clearly they do not want to play.
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[size=150 We have nothing left to lose now[/size'"
Finally someone speaking sense!
The worse that will happen is we'll see a team of unexperienced players with potential try there best and get used to a super league game.
I would rather this than a group of overconfident players wearing the black and white shirt slacking off for money and not wearing the black and white shirt with pride as this club was supposed to be about.
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| Quote airliebird58="airliebird58"There's been a lot of constructive comment on this thread and I have been pleased to see it.
I recall John Kear's head being called for in a similar way. Peter Sharp was called out of his depth. What is the common denominator in all this? The players.
BTW, I used your quote because it doesn't bother me if people use 'buzz' words or maybe leave a couple of letters off a word, as long as they make a constructive point.
Being condescending gets us nowhere.'"
The common denominator is cheap 2nd rate coaches and a board which won't speculate to accuulate
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| Quote The Hollywood Frasier="The Hollywood Frasier"I actually think the players were well within their right to resent and turn on Kear the way he behaved after we won the CC.
Peter Sharp was actually really well liked by the players who acted like proffesionals.
Think Agar is getting undermined by certain players because they know he isnt up to the job.'"
what did kear do after we won the cc?
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| Quote Ded="Ded"Finally someone speaking sense!
The worse that will happen is we'll see a team of unexperienced players with potential try there best and get used to a super league game.
I would rather this than a group of overconfident players wearing the black and white shirt slacking off for money and not wearing the black and white shirt with pride as this club was supposed to be about.'"
me too, I'd rather watch 17 players who wanted to be there lose to Salford than our super dooper first team squad lose to Salford
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| They will not use the u21 squad of course, but there are some members of the 1st team squad that to be frank need to some where else.
I guess Rich Agar knows who they are and I dare many on here do, he is just not going to be allowed to drop them. Its down to cost as the u21 players would come at a cost to play them, playing lazy 1st teamers does not.
I have one or two names in mind and I have resisted the temptation to name some as I am not in the business of slagging them off on here.
Its too public
But Thorman is not one, I believe he is trying its the buggers that are not bothering to work too hard.
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| Quote Jake the Peg="Jake the Peg"what did kear do after we won the cc?'"
Fell backwards over the advertising boards, IIRC.
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| Quote Ian P="Ian P"They will not use the u21 squad of course, but there are some members of the 1st team squad that to be frank need to some where else.
I guess Rich Agar knows who they are and I dare many on here do, he is just not going to be allowed to drop them. Its down to cost as the u21 players would come at a cost to play them, playing lazy 1st teamers does not.
I have one or two names in mind and I have resisted the temptation to name some as I am not in the business of slagging them off on here.
Its too public
But Thorman is not one, I believe he is trying its the buggers that are not bothering to work too hard.'"
Nail on the head, not massive in the ability department however he is having a go, kicked into the corner on Saturday lovely ball yet no-one there!
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| Quote Ian P="Ian P"They will not use the u21 squad of course, but there are some members of the 1st team squad that to be frank need to some where else.
I guess Rich Agar knows who they are and I dare many on here do, he is just not going to be allowed to drop them. Its down to cost as the u21 players would come at a cost to play them, playing lazy 1st teamers does not.
I have one or two names in mind and I have resisted the temptation to name some as I am not in the business of slagging them off on here.
Its too public
But Thorman is not one, I believe he is trying its the buggers that are not bothering to work too hard.'"
good post ian
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"Fell backwards over the advertising boards, IIRC.'"

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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"It's not an either/or scenario for me. Agar needs to go, as do a good number of the underperforming players.'"
I agree with that.
Big [size=150 'If'[/size player power is and has been a such problem at the club, then why on this earth, did the board appoint Agar in the first place?
Surely the board did not expect that an inexperienced R Agar, was the man to sort out that problem.
I think this 'player power' card, has been way over played.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"I tend to avoid debate with people that don't have a basic grasp of english, even more so people who use "buzz words" they have heard on telly what not knowing what they mean.
Hall going to Widnes demonstrates Agar's lack of ability, and I wouldn't call Fitzgibbon on a year "prudent".'" What rugby coaching experience do you have that would make your opinion on agar plausable? Don't defend yourself by telling us it is your opinion as you are too dismissive of other peoples. You are condescending and rude. Common decency and manners cost nothing. Your parents must be proud!
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