longs kicking game was terrible last night, dont know what people were seeing if they though otherwise. i know hes better then thorman but he definately didnt show it last night. for me it was wilkin who controlled the game and took over from both long and pryce(who was virtually none exsistant)

yeh that was unfortunate from calderwodd not to take the pass but to be fair i also think it was a bit of a panic pass from whiting he could have easily had a few more strides and gave it to him. it was a good catch from whiting though to even get in that position.

i also dont blame thorman for 5 drives and kick, for me thats the coaching. thorman is simply following the game plan and you cant blame him for that. its down to agar to coach him on set plays and allow him to play expansive. did we play any different last year without him? no. it was exactly the same.

i thought long was shiiiiite last nite and thorman did ok nothing spectacular just ok and r.horne had been closed down everytime he had the ball saints knew he would be the dangerman so decided to stop his skill before he had chance to execute it.

Tell me then which scrum half actually created scoring opportunities for his team last night and which one didn't.

oh sorry i forgot we now have to BIG UP longy now as he will be our saviour next season....TOSH...he had a bad game and didnt play as well as he should(and was expected to)have played...he was shiiiiiiite

No he wasn't, he wasn't great but was far from shiiiiite (see Thorman's performance at Leeds and the 2nd half against Warrington, now that was shiiiite). Long did however create/was involved in 2/3 of St's tries last night, nothing to do with bigging him up. That said I've seen enough of him to know he's capable of much better.

Not what he said at all.