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| Thormans rubbish, has anyone told him you can kick up field and not just left and right? And if possible kick to your own players and not the opposing teams.
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| Quote MrPhilb="MrPhilb"But then again we don't know what he gets payed'"
More than Thorman, about £130k pa
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| thorman was embarrasing on sunday he better get his act together on friday if hes picked his kicking into touch is appalling needs to practice ALOT!!
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|  so every body just watches one player have a bad game  its a team game.. the all team on Sunday were Shi-- ..We only played for about 15 minutes to rate anybody I would find its hard to give anybody more then 5 out of ten.. and the 5 is for them going onto the pitch  ..before people have a go ..I have got my tickets for the Saints game on Monday ..When we get beat I don't put defeat down to individuals 
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| Quote XxHONEYxX="XxHONEYxX"thorman was embarrasing on sunday he better get his act together on friday if hes picked his kicking into touch is appalling needs to practice ALOT!!'"
Again Horne was equally as bad, but no thread or slagging him off on here!
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Again Horne was equally as bad, but no thread or slagging him off on here!'"
Funny that eh.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"Funny that eh.'"
Thorman seems to be the new whipping boy, bet Tommy Lee is happy though
Thorman seems to be doing at decent job the job I thought he would do, nobody was slagging him off until we get beat.
Not many halfbacks can play well behind a beaten pack and thats what has been happening the last few games.
Ok his kicking has been a bit hit and miss and he has made a few mistakes, but who hasnt in the last couple of games.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Thorman seems to be the new whipping boy, bet Tommy Lee is happy though
Thorman seems to be doing at decent job the job I thought he would do, nobody was slagging him off until we get beat.
Not many halfbacks can play well behind a beaten pack and thats what has been happening the last few games.
Ok his kicking has been a bit hit and miss and he has made a few mistakes, but who hasnt in the last couple of games.'"
His kicking game is the biggest letdown, I mean from the pov of kicking near the tryline when it is clearly not on. When our pack has been on top then he has done well.
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| Quote PAUL M="PAUL M"His kicking game is the biggest letdown, I mean from the pov of kicking near the tryline when it is clearly not on. When our pack has been on top then he has done well.'"
A number of times on Sunday he had plenty of time to pick his spot with his mid range kicks only to find a Salford player on the full. He has to improve this and his decision making under pressure. By no means Hull's main problem though as some have suggested.
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| Quote Dave K.="Dave K."Again Horne was equally as bad, but no thread or slagging him off on here!'"
There may be no thread, but any number of people have mentioned that Horne isn't playing well.
Anyway - do you really expect a rational discussion of individual players on here? 
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"OK then - what constitutes a missed tackle for statistical purposes?
How many of the tackles listed for each player is when he's third man in?
What constitutes a clean break?
Who collects the stats? How many of them are there? Do they do it live or from video footage? What's their RL background? How familiar are they with the game and rules?
No statistician worth his salt would use data with so many unknowns.'"
Im not starting on this again, im laughing at your post saying that stats are captured subjectives but you'd rather believe other sources of information such as what people see and hear which are far more subjective. Was a bit of an odd statement to be honest when you start talking subjectivity of stats.
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