They are so so bad. I watched ST Helens Richardson put the ball flat on the kick off tee and made it so hard for our players to catch every kick off. We will kick off every single time and it will go to the teams best winger and they could literally catch it using 1 hand its pathetic. I would much rather see Huby kick it with a big toe bung and ask some questions of the opposition I want to see some diversity.

You post this every year whenever we have a bit of a losing run.
Are will do the same most of the time.

Think Fridays loss came as big shock for a few fans for me our desire to defend was embarrassing

NGB4C does get things right some times you know, and I think he's bang on with this one. I also noticed that he places it flat and appears to put hell of a lot of spin on it making it more difficult to catch. The opposition receiver doesn't even have to move off the spot when we restart.

This isn't a comment on our kick-offs, as very few teams do anything original, but I am always surprised teams don't show more invention here, given that you get the ball back if it bounces out of play. Is it so hard for a kicker to drill it low and hard towards the sidelines? The unpredictability of the bounce would make it slow to collect, and you might get a few going out. Or is it hard to aim it to hit the ground if it has a flat trajectory?

The additional benefit is that teams would stop going for the two on penalties if the result is the opposition with a good chance of getting the ball back.

As for us, we do what nearly every team does: play the percentages.

You're spot on fella. They are completely turd. It's pretty annoying albeit a small aspect of the game.

while he posts some real drivel at times he does have a point, I've seen some very poor kick offs with no creativity to put pressure of the return, I too would like to see at least some effort put in to it

Almost seems as though we look for the opposition fullback and kick it to him, every time. No variety whatsoever. Is there a problem with at least varying it left to right?

CC even pointed it out in his post match interview ! We need some kind of a change from the start with scotty not making the distance.

Also what about when we receive the ball from a kick off - we have to be the worst team in stats for the last 2 years ,in either making a mistake from the kick off or that set of six.

In this day and age most coaches will scrutinise games minutely, including kick offs and which works best.
We had the same debate on our board and it seems Powell likes it to go high to the part of the pitch where we want the opposition to start their first set. I.E. Left corner and keep them down there but this obviously needs the ball to go high and a good chase.

Why does Grix take the drop outs too, did I dream our stand off making a 50 odd yarder against Catalan.

Poor kick offs have been the order of the day for as long as I can remember. It must be written into each new coach's contract and handed out as an instruction along with the players shirt.
Once saw Craig Hall do a fantastic low hard short kick off to the left that bounced straight into Ben Cockaynes hands. Try from same set. At Headingley, can't remember if we rescued the game or not though?

Have to agree. You might as well chuck the ball to the opposition from the halfway because our kick offs usually end up straight in the opposing full back's arms. We're completely unadventurous and don 't seem to want to compete for the ball.

I think our whole kicking game is poor. It's the same kick off every time, don't get anything (not that I expect it every time) from our drop outs and then when we get a half decent opportunity to make some yards on the back of a penalty we kick 10 metres downfield and it's been the same for as long as I can remember, look at every other side who make 30+ metres from penalties and what you can make on the back of it.