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| as its lead headline of every news bulletin and i've just had my voting card today, how are Trin supporters voting in the EU referendum:
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| Quote: wtid71 "as its lead headline of every news bulletin and i've just had my voting card today, how are Trin supporters voting in the EU referendum
Thought I had better add a third option ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Leave. Then make a start distancing ourselves from some of the other euro kangaroo courts were hamstrung with.
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| Leave , Leave, Leave
I don't want anything Cameron /Osborne want me to have
All they are interested in is making money for their own multi millionaire kind at the expense of the working classes
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| Quote: John Willy Higson "Leave , Leave, Leave
I don't want anything Cameron /Osborne want me to have
All they are interested in is making money for their own multi millionaire kind at the expense of the working classes'"
And Farage, Gove, Johnson etc only want what's best for the workers. Yeah, course they do!
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| I'm voting remain, for 3 main reasons
1) Investment in the North - don't see any of the westminster elite being too interested in plugging the gap that leaving the EU will cause.
2) The people advocating for brexit (shudder) are fairly contemptible characters in general, Farage, Boris, Ian Duncan Smith and so on.
3) I go to the continent quite often and enjoy travelling around unhindered.
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| Europe needs to do something to reduce the possibility of mass migration (to any country) and if/when this is sorted, there is no doubt that we are better off in Europe and trying to work from within to improve peoples lives, not building the castle walls higher and higher and trying to live on our own.
Britain is so far from being self sufficient, we have to trade with the rest of the world and IF trade becomes harder in Europe, we are making life more difficult for ourselves, just to appease the Tory right wing.
Some of them still believe that Britannia rules the world but, it doesn't.
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| Well if you want to hand over this country's right to govern itself over to unelected foreign beurocrats that you Carnot vote out go ahead vote remain
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| Quote: roverman "Well if you want to hand over this country's right to govern itself over to unelected foreign beurocrats that you Carnot vote out go ahead vote remain'"
Exactly. Once you give up your right to choose your government you no longer hold them to account. It's can only end in tears. Many voters will vote in the belief they are voting for the status Quo, history shows there is no status quo when it come to the EU.
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| Quote: deeHell "Exactly. Once you give up your right to choose your government you no longer hold them to account. It's can only end in tears. Many voters will vote in the belief they are voting for the status Quo, history shows there is no status quo when it come to the EU.'"
For me, this is quite a lot like the Scottish Independence vote.
As we have been tied into Europe for over 40 years, nobody really knows what life will be like if we pull out.
Although there has been lots of scaremongering (on both sides) the one certainty is that, in the short term, there will be one hell of an economic shock and maybe over time things may improve but, the point is that nobody actually knows.
So how much are you prepared to gamble ?
Also, a vote to pull out of Europe will be an end to the Cameron government (many may like this) but, the prospect of Boris (the clown) Johnson being in the big chair is not great.
Although i'd rather go for a pint with him over Cameron, any day of the week, could you really put the country's future in his hands
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| Quote: deeHell "Exactly. Once you give up your right to choose your government you no longer hold them to account. It's can only end in tears. Many voters will vote in the belief they are voting for the status Quo, history shows there is no status quo when it come to the EU.'"
Nail on the head with that. All the scaremongering from Cameron/Osbourne and that Canadian politician that is the governor of the bank of England will scare people to vote to remain. No mention ever of the catastrophic effect that this political experiment has had on Greece & Italy who now have over 50% youth unemployment. No mention ever of the implications on the UK when Albania and Turkey join and they will. If your going to vote in the referendum arm yourself with the facts of voting either way and what the future will hold in or out.
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| I don't agree with the way either side are handling the debate because it is just one lot of Conservatives against another group and both have been brought up on the tactics of fear.
If you ignore the infighting the only answer is that we must remain in Europe because the days of empire are long gone and will never return. The out group quote that we will regain control of our borders and quote Norway and how they have a trade agreement with the EU. The problem is that to do this they have to agree to the free movement of people.
I believe that for every pound we pay to the EU we gat 80p back but why let the truth get in the way of the well trodden path of fear.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "For me, this is quite a lot like the Scottish Independence vote.
As we have been tied into Europe for over 40 years, nobody really knows what life will be like if we pull out.
Although there has been lots of scaremongering (on both sides) the one certainty is that, in the short term, there will be one hell of an economic shock and maybe over time things may improve but, the point is that nobody actually knows.
So how much are you prepared to gamble ?'"
My personnel belief is that the biggest risk in the long term is Remaining. I'm willing to concede in the short term the biggest risk is Leaving but not the apocalyptic visions of Cameron and co. I'm motivated by my Children's future not my personnel short term material gain.
Considering we are a net contributor to the EU and run a massive trade deficit with the EU I can't see that us going down isn't going to take them down. Mutually assured economic chaos will see that a deal will be in place within 2 years of article 50 been invoked. I'm more concerned of the risks of Turkey joining the EU (if not official through affiliation) or us been dragged into future EU bail outs. All roads point to increase contributions and increased austerity over here. The Status Quo will not be an option. In uncertain times I would rather have the ability to hold to account the people that have the power to make these decisions.
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| Well at least you could vote boris Johnson out nobody can stop the Eu project and we will have to put up with every single dictat from Brussels that they want to impose on Britain . I'm tired of seeing the remain propaganda on the BBC it's pure scaremongering and paid for by the Eu.
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