Only running the line but another example of his ineptitude for all to see on Sky last night. Swung the balance firmly against Hull KR.
This guy, Hicks and Stokes really are embarassing for the game.

Add James Childs and Robert Hicks to that list!

I think the refs do a very difficult job as well as can be expected. The problem they have is that they are not given enough support by the linesmen and their boss, Sharpe, has no concept of good PR. We cannot expect them to get every call correct.

I can just about always accept a dodgy call unless its blatant. What gets me is how they manage the game generally, deciding when to blow for that offside, make a decision on a very flat pass, when to take a stand on holding down. This is where I think they are often particularly inconsistent throughout any given game and what gets my back up. The areas where they have leeway and seem to use this unevenly

quite simply bl***y useless.

rugby union far more technical game with rules coming out of yer arris but top refs generally do a very good job. international referees especially - although of course there are howlers - show very good game management and fans are often left talking about the rugby rather than the person with the whistle.

what i would like to see on TV games is the viewer being allowed to listen to the refs when they are communicating with the players/explaining their decisions. commentators for union know when to shut up allow us to hear. gives more credibility and acceptance to the viewer. stevo and his mates speak over and we hear nothing when something has kicked off so we the viewer are left even more in the dark and as a result more fed up. they talk about technology etc but those microphones and the headgear serve no purpose at the present time. maybe things will change when eddy and stevo go to heaven. ( sad thing is that their angel following - tez/bri/baz/phil are developing the same bloody habit)

We have too many rules that are open to interpretation. My main gripe is ball steal/loose carry most are very borderline and could be called either way. These calls are nothing more than a lottery.

Solution: If you get ball pulled away ,hard luck the onus must be on the ball carrier. Another poster mentioned RU , stripping the ball is allowed, but very rarely is it lost in the tackle they have no problem holding on to it. When I first started watching our game you could steal the ball no matter how many were in the tackle but most players could hold on to it .

I remember it well but even then the good players had the skill to slip the ball and make the pass even with three men in the tackle. All this rule does is help bad players and confuse the spectators. Its totally impossible to call correctly so why bother.

It's a fair point in the sence that the rule was brought in to allow skillful players to have a chance of passing the ball.
It's stayed the same and now needs clarifying.

For me, uyou are allowed a one on one steal. If it's dropped with no opposition hand on the ball then it's a knock on.

You've just proved my point, there are many times when its impossible to see if there was an hand on the ball or not and then its just left to a guess. Calls should not be made on guess work.

Would it not be a good idea to introduce a new rule which simply says .The ball MUST be passed backwards, thus eliminating the flat pass grey area,

Jeez, far too simple.

I thought that foot in touch call swung the momentum in favour of Shudds - it was a very poor call and having been showed to be completely wrong on the big screen, why didn't the ref reverse it, then call Mr Roby on to the pitch and slap him upside the head?

As for stripping; it's now an art that certain players have mastered - Sinfield, Henderson, Hodgson, Elis to name a few - getting a crafty hand in during the tackle and flicking the ball loose as they withdraw. It's difficult for the ref to spot, as we now gang tackle and allow the ball carrier to be swamped by bodies, so just about every tackle is a confusing melee.

I'm not sure how you resolve it - maybe 2 ref's on the field would allow the ruck to be more closely policed; or if the suggestion of VR at every game from next season is accurate, it'll be another thing to refer upstairs.

He was at it again today, an absolutely awful display by the officials. A half decent team would've beaten Cas by 20+ points today.

I heard it the other way.