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| As well documented as are current position has been thanks to at last some refreshing honesty.
Do we have choices?
If the club folded? and a collective was formed new shareholders new funding supporters trust ect ?
Would we be in a better position that we are now? And make further sales /disposal of players
Not necessary.
If the criteria for relegation is how we finish in the league? isn't the recruitment and retention of key players
essential and this to give fans new hope That together we are really stronger!
I am not decrying what our new board is doing in any way and they may well welcome a new approach ?
Reading earlier posts we have a fantastic core support but as much as the club needs them it is the additional not so committed supporters we need to keep which will ultimately decide our fate and am not sure saying if we don't support and I don't mean the current hard-core then we will have to sell to keep going and survive is the message that will encourage the remainder to get on board.
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| Quote: factsareus "As well documented as are current position has been thanks to at last some refreshing honesty.
Do we have choices?
If the club folded? and a collective was formed new shareholders new funding supporters trust ect ?
Would we be in a better position that we are now? And make further sales /disposal of players
Not necessary.
If the criteria for relegation is how we finish in the league? isn't the recruitment and retention of key players
essential and this to give fans new hope That together we are really stronger!
I am not decrying what our new board is doing in any way and they may well welcome a new approach ?
Reading earlier posts we have a fantastic core support but as much as the club needs them it is the additional not so committed supporters we need to keep which will ultimately decide our fate and am not sure saying if we don't support and I don't mean the current hard-core then we will have to sell to keep going and survive is the message that will encourage the remainder to get on board.'"
Not sure I understand you correctly.
If the club is put into administration then the Administrator has an obligation to the Creditors to pay them as much as he can so he would sell what players he can and at knock down prices. If anyone then buys the Club, or whats left of it or a collective formed then there would be very little left by way of players so new players would need to be recruited.
Also by being in Administration our Super League licence would be lost and they only way it can be got back is with the approval of the RFL, who I believe have a right of veto and 8 out of the SL Clubs voting in favour of us and with relegation next year there are 2 chances of that, a dogs chance and no chance.
So the "new" club would have to apply to play in the Championship, probably in Championship 1 and try to fight its way back to SL.
So if I understand you correctly then the option to "fold" is a non starter in my opinion.
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| Well said 'Sandal Cat'
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| Well yes I agree with you sandal cat .. but the best deal would be with the new club to secure the players in what I suppose would be a pre pack ?so no players would be lost.
And as for the R.L. negotiation would have to take place prior to any decisions being made and I guess with woods best mate as our chief exec then we would stand a good chance.
The end result would be a debt free club ...with players retained
or if the monies require to meet our debt are not raised
A club in 2 million pounds of debt with the best players sold.
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| Quote: factsareus "Well yes I agree with you sandal cat .. but the best deal would be with the new club to secure the players in what I suppose would be a pre pack ?so no players would be lost.
And as for the R.L. negotiation would have to take place prior to any decisions being made and I guess with woods best mate as our chief exec then we would stand a good chance.
The end result would be a debt free club ...with players retained
or if the monies require to meet our debt are not raised
A club in 2 million pounds of debt with the best players sold.'"
I'm not sure that anyone should want what you're advocating.
Ok the club may walk away from some debts but, some poor souls don't get paid, which could mean that their livelihood goes down the pan as well.
If YOU were a creditor of WTW, would you really want this.
We need EVERYONE to get behind the club, renew you S/T, sign up for the 1873 lottery and register for Foxy bingo
and if enough of us do this, there shouldn't be a problem next season.
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| Quote: factsareus "Well yes I agree with you sandal cat .. but the best deal would be with the new club to secure the players in what I suppose would be a pre pack ?so no players would be lost.
And as for the R.L. negotiation would have to take place prior to any decisions being made and I guess with woods best mate as our chief exec then we would stand a good chance.
The end result would be a debt free club ...with players retained
or if the monies require to meet our debt are not raised
A club in 2 million pounds of debt with the best players sold.'"
If the admin route was taken, make no mistake, wtw is out of super league. This was made very clear to us during the recent negotiations. They would not allow us to walk away from debts and retain our place.
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| Quote: Daddycool "If the admin route was taken, make no mistake, wtw is out of super league. This was made very clear to us during the recent negotiations. They would not allow us to walk away from debts and retain our place.'"
And nor should they. Our reputation as a club would suffer even more. I am glad you are making the club cut its cloth and that bills will be paid one way or another.
Waiting for share offer to hopefully be finalised before I raid my piggy bank
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| Me too - waiting for details of share offer.
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| New to the board -I'll offer my support via share offer ideally but failing that donation/s
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| Quote: Winter is coming "New to the board -I'll offer my support via share offer ideally but failing that donation/s'"
Well done you.
That's as good a first post as you can get.
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| Quote: Winter is coming "New to the board -I'll offer my support via share offer ideally but failing that donation/s'"
Welcome.
ST are working on it so it won't be long.
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| Quote: factsareus "Well yes I agree with you sandal cat .. but the best deal would be with the new club to secure the players in what I suppose would be a pre pack ?so no players would be lost.
And as for the R.L. negotiation would have to take place prior to any decisions being made and I guess with woods best mate as our chief exec then we would stand a good chance.
The end result would be a debt free club ...with players retained
or if the monies require to meet our debt are not raised
A club in 2 million pounds of debt with the best players sold.'"
I think this avenue has been explored and rejected by the RFL.
As Daddy Cool has said Administration = Championship
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| Trading between any company there is always a risk of none payment
Recent negotiations with the R.F.L ? I guess that this option must have had some merit then.
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| Quote: factsareus "Trading between any company there is always a risk of none payment
Recent negotiations with the R.F.L ? I guess that this option must have had some merit then.'"
It may have. I think Crusaders did a pre-pack and it left a sour taste with the RFL when they wanted to do it again so I don't think they'll allow anyone to do this again.
The choice is to carry on as we are and pay our creditors or put the Club into Administration and someone pick up whats left and start again in Championship 1, assuming you are allowed in the Championship.
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| It sounds as if we have already tried sandal cat?
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