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| Traditionally Wakefield have always had a strong youth set up, identifying players with potential, at an early age and moulding them into good players. We seem to be good at that.
The problem is that, whilst most other clubs are able to hold onto their homegrown players, ours either fail at the last hurdle to make it or go elsewhere to seek their fortune, why is that?
I feel that until we correct this then we are going to amble along as we are signing other club's cast off's or overseas players, not all of whom have WT at heart.
Why are players like Annakin, Wildie, Davey etc finding themselves in the wilderness, are they not up to it or are we failing to recognise their talent and bring it on further?
I appreciate there is a world of difference between youth rugby and stepping up to senior rugby but at best our record for keeping homegrown players is pretty abysmal! What a waste of talent and money!
By the way I have only one ID and am not being negative!
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| It's easy for teams that win more often to blood their young players, and them being in a less individually pressured environment may also add to their development or perhaps speed it up.
Richer clubs either by success or benefactor are also in a stronger position to take away what promising youngsters we have also.
Clueless coaches don't help either!!!
There's three reasons for you, I don't think you have to look far beyond them.
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| Quote: kinleycat "It's easy for teams that win more often to blood their young players, and them being in a less individually pressured environment may also add to their development or perhaps speed it up.
Richer clubs either by success or benefactor are also in a stronger position to take away what promising youngsters we have also.
Clueless coaches don't help either!!!
There's three reasons for you, I don't think you have to look far beyond them.'"
Well I accept those reasons but even Cas and Fev hold onto more of their own players than we do!
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| We are happier bringing in players from the other side of the world and trying to develop them rather than our home grown youngsters.
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| Quote: sandaltrinityfan "Well I accept those reasons but even Cas and Fev hold onto more of their own players than we do!'"
Cas have always spent more on attracting youngsters and seem to give them a good crack at first team rugby, that's for certain.
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| Only talking with a work mate and same as he said been brought up on watching local lads such as Thompson and Bell give it everything when pulling the shirt on.The one stand out thing with local lads is the pride when they pull on that shirt.As for leadership the ones that are trying the most are Kirmond and Cockayne and the only one talking is Smith.We need someone who can say watch this now its your turn and dont dare let anyone down as we are the best and only the best will do.Someone who can motivate when the backs are against the wall alas we are short of a homegrown to do that at the moment.
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| The unfortunate thing is Agar only wants to preserve his CV. As at Hull the under 20's only get a shout when desperation really sets in.
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| No relegation & no realistic chance of top 8: So, why not build a squad over next 2 years, by blooding our youngsters, at BV ? 1 or 2 at a time, initially.
Hopefully, over that time, some, if not many, will establish themselves as first team regulars. 2015 could then usher in a new era with ( hopefully) NM open & our team built on OUR young players foundations. This would cement WTW as truly representative of the City & inspire wider fan-base through loyalty factor. Clearly its a gamble (but what isn't?) as we all know & only a successful team will pull in significantly more regular fans. but isnt it worth a try ?
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| That was the supposed idea of no relegation so teams could blood youngsters with out fear of the drop.
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| For me more of the youngsters should be going out on loan for a short period of time to get used to playing against bigger opposition, then at the backend of the season let these lads have a crack at sl and see how they get on, the club could atleast try to backup the 3 year plan theyve got on the field.
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| If we want to see a succession of home grown players, and kids given a chance, we may have to trade in our season tickets and get down to Cas, me I would rather do it their way, the likes of Clarke, Milner, Huby, Owen, Arundel, and Walker are not only home grown, but far better than some of the overseas bags of crap we are paying.
These are just the ones we know of, there are some belters coming through, that Beefy's kid Brad he looks like a good un,fair play to Cas IMHO.
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| Quote: i8no-one "If we want to see a succession of home grown players, and kids given a chance, we may have to trade in our season tickets and get down to Cas, me I would rather do it their way, the likes of Clarke, Milner, Huby, Owen, Arundel, and Walker are not only home grown, but far better than some of the overseas bags of crap we are paying.
These are just the ones we know of, there are some belters coming through, that Beefy's kid Brad he looks like a good un,fair play to Cas IMHO.'"
Also worth baring in mind though, this hasnt happened over night.
Matterson had played these kids regularly and a few more, and while this tree has born many fruit, many of those who are lauding the Cas approach, were none too happy when they were getting smashed week in week out with a team full of kids.
Its a brave decision, and one IMO that SL was made for, however coaches know they are in a results game and they rarely are in a position to look too far beyond the next match.
I 100% agree with the last sentence of your first paragraph BTW.
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| Also worth baring in mind is the extra money it costs to keep these players playing for CT. A club that realistically are'nt going to win anything soon. Shenton to Saints, Westerman to Hull FC - they seek winners medals and winning pay - simple as that.
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| Quote: Tigerade "Also worth baring in mind is the extra money it costs to keep these players playing for CT. A club that realistically are'nt going to win anything soon. Shenton to Saints, Westerman to Hull FC - they seek winners medals and winning pay - simple as that.'"
Unfortunately both CT and WT are not tempting enough for some players to stay. In the case of WT this has been the case for donkeys years. It will remain the same until there is hope. There have been exceptions at WT, and I applaud such as Johny Thompson and Nigel Bell who for me are up there above the Gareth Ellis' and Ben Westwood's of this world.
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| Quote: i8no-one "If we want to see a succession of home grown players, and kids given a chance, we may have to trade in our season tickets and get down to Cas, me I would rather do it their way, the likes of Clarke, Milner, Huby, Owen, Arundel, and Walker are not only home grown, but far better than some of the overseas bags of crap we are paying.
These are just the ones we know of, there are some belters coming through, that Beefy's kid Brad he looks like a good un,fair play to Cas IMHO.'"
Why do you need to go to Cas, we have those kind of players in our own youth teams - ours just don't get a game.
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