The team, to me at least, seemed to be progressing nicely during the early stages of the season. Yes there were mistakes and errors but it was possible to see the team improve each week, culminating with the victory over Catalans.

However since then the team has taken a huge step backwards, so much so they look less of a team now than what they did on the opening night of the season.

So what do you think is the reason for this. Player burn out with little squad rotation, a lack of effective props, has Agar lost the dressing room, or has the players attitude changed because they beat the Dragons and stopped putting the hard work in?

I don't know but you are 100% right in what you say. I felt we looked alright in the early stages of the season and but for a bit of luck or a bit more creativity we might have picked up a couple more points. We then beat Catalan and I really though things were coming together but that has been totally shot down in the last 2 games where we have been easily beat by 2 of the worst teams in the league. I'm not one for turning on a coach and certainly not this early on but questions do need asking about Agar's qualities or lack of them.

LOOK at hulls improvement since agar left, at 1st youve got to give agar credit as he had the team playing for him and thats all you can ask from the coach, sadly that seems to have disappeared now and even if we somehow managed to win against wigan or leeds, we are only appering over the cracks.Agars not the only person to blame some of that team are massivly underperforming yet the coach keeps on picking them. If wakey are going to become a force in superleague then this losing is ok mentality needs to change.

Something just doesn't seem right to me....

Positive signs were there in recent weeks, yes we were getting beat but you couldn't fault the effort of the team.

The last two games the team has been unrecognizable......

What we had was fizz and effort. That only takes you so far, and once the good sides hit the straps, you get found out. We got found out, and I can't see a win for a while if we defend like that again. We will finish bottom this year.

I think that's a fair assessment

I am fearful re the weeks ahead - it will be very interesting to see how the club, coach and playing staff react....

I said this would happen right from the start with his appointment and was shot down in flames. Agar's should never have been appointed and enough fans made that clear from the start. Glover then announced the new coach stood head and shoulders above the rest !! where he came up with this description god only knows, (probably what Elston told him) as there were 18 applicants including Noble !! I am afraid that giving him a 3 year contract is another almighty balls up by Elston, and that will mean either having to pay him off a big chunk of cash, or putting up with him for the whole 3 year term, and i think the latter is more likely as the cash it would cost just isnt available. Agar had nowhere to go after Hull and he was not in a position to be insisting on 3 years, but the club rolled over and gave it to him. A decision that will cost them dearly either way.
As for his recruitment first 3 aussies (Smith,John & Southern) between all of them last season played only 7 NRL games, then 3 players deemed not good enough for Giants, and then brings in Sykes a Full Back/Centre when we are crying out for a big nasty front rower because he obviously believes we have ample firepower in the forwards. The bloke has no idea he really doesnt and if the powers that be cannot see that then its really not funny.

But if no front rowers are available what is he to do? Raleigh is a 2nd row but has been asked to step up as no one was available. I think the 3 ex giant players have all done well since they came but I'd like to see more of Kyle wood as he tries to create things. We were hit badly by kirmond pulling up the day before and Ali pulling up during the game. It kind of shows we lack depth when 1st choice players go down

Yes im an Hull FC fan and i havent come on to say we told you so.Its not that, its just we wanted to warn you what you were getting.We know first hand, no imagination, same play week inweek out, no drive and the too many years he was with us we achieved nothing.Now Peter Gentle gets appointed and a few games in in his first season and were second in the league. That must speak for itself, at last we have hope, we may not stay ther but even if we end up in the first six its more than we would ever have achieved under Agar.I sincerely hope Agar does come good for you but in all honesty i just cant see it.

But agar did get you to a grand final and CC final didn't he? I expect he was the best thing since sliced bread when that happened. Anyway you told us but we did it anyway. None of your concern any more

Ok its not my concern, but if thats your attitude then i hope you get what you deserve, bottom place and Agar with you till his contract ends. I came on here with with no malice or sarcistic comments and if thats how you react you deserve him. HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR WOODEN SPOON COS ITS THE ONLY THING YOU WILL GET.

I rest my case. TROLL.

No he didn't. Poetic licence in your club's spiel about his appointment. He was at the club, but Peter Sharp was the head coach. We never won a single playoff game under Agar, never mind making a grand final. In fact our grand total of wins against SL opposition in knockout rugby under him was the quarter final at Bradford and the semi against you, both in his first season. We then went 0 from 6.

Peter sharp was head coach, and as for the Challenge cup hull played championship opposition right through to semi final when they beat us. This was the year they played Thackray who had already played for another team in the comp.

We look no better on the field now than what we did last season.