The talk about the North stand is good news for the team, as its taken a bit of attention from the performance which was very poor to say the least, out played, out enthused, and out gunned, a pi55 poticle evening on all fronts.

we were cr@p and cannot see where the next win is gonna come this lot is no better than last year, glover must be wandering why he bothered.

possible the coach has lost the dressing room already?? eitherway the coach has already proven to not being upto the job. 3 year contract he shouldnt have got 3 weeks.

Our forwards didnt make enough yards, our kicking game was shocking, we lacked any creativity and our defence was heartless.

For a derby game we lacked hunger, desire and controlled aggression in my opinion. I have to question Agars ability to get players up for games

im sorry but if the players cant get themselves fired up for a local derby then they shouldnt be at our club.

The team were pathetic, there is no excuse for that sort of play. We would have done better with David Blunket at stand off and the bloody rolley polleys as the back 4. Get bloody Agar out and Jason Dometriou in, drop Smith and Mathers. We did not deserve the 16 points. As for the north stand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet there was no beer throwing of fighting where Mr Andrew bloody Glover was seated. Selling ale all day with a 7.30 ko he is just greedy

Time for a shake up in the forwards - James, Walshaw, Trout, Mariano, Ellis time to stake a claim - tackle & run hard all match & you will get that starting spot.

1.Which forwards need to move over that is the question?
2. What do the stats say? Who is dropping off tackles and not making the yardage?
3. Have we got too many forwards carrying knocks/injuries to suddenly go completely off the boil & let teams roll us back up onto our own try line too easily?

Wigan 2nd team will be rubbing their hands for Monday and Leeds will walk not run over us next Friday!

This is a real challenge to R.A.'s coaching ability and time for him to make some tough coaching decisions otherwise it will not be a 1 year stay with WTW never mind a 3 year one!

Ager should have made changes after London , no passion in team , coaches job to motivate

Smith needs dropping for wood. He has no imagination. All he does is pass. Doesn't run it or look to do anything but pass it straight away. And that off offload to Aiton from Trout. Aiton needs to be awake for stuff like that.

Oh yes it's was all Glover's fault, Oh yes I bet he's raking it in from the Ale, bet he isn't putting money hand over fist into the club, wac.

A half back who passes...bloody hell. Drop him!!

On paper I thought we were a better team in terms of 'ability' than last years squad but something has gone wrong big time in the last 2 games. Only those inside the changing room can say what.

Agar has not got the response that he & WTW needed and now he has a real problem - turning the team completely around & taking on (and competing at least with) two of the best teams in SL one of which are the World Club champions.

Agar needs to focus on the pack because with no go forward or hard hitting shuddering consistent tackles of the opposition pack the rest of the game plan falls by the wayside as its hurried off the back foot stuff.

If he fails over the next 6 games & these lifeless performances continue then he must go & bring in Powell from Featherstone otherwise WTW will go backwards & lose the impetus it has gained over the last 6 months.

Cas have spent alot less than WTW haven't they although they have a SL coach who has won something?

Smith has the potential to be a good signing but our forwards are always on the back foot so he has little space to work although getting caught in your own half on the last is ludicrous.John on the other hand is looking gash and was completely anonymous tonight signing him for 3 years was just madness cos he looks like he has nothing to offer.

Against Catalan didn't John create 2 tries for Cockayne? Need to keep faith in the backs.

WTW need to focus on the pack big time. Rugby League is a game where if your forwards don't dominate or compete closely then you lose. We're getting hammered up front & rolled down the pitch and R.A. has acknowledged this. The Catalan game seems to have 'burned out' some of the forwards??

The concerning thing is if the replacement forwards are no better (James,Eliis,Mariano etc) then its going to be a long painful season & we'll be rooted to the bottom of the table this season instead of second bottom.
There was talk of needing a prop but just one player wouldn't change this around.

Hear, hear...3 yrs...this is gonna cost us! My heart sank when we appointed him and it continues to plummet