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| What next for Harlequins/Broncos,who ever you want to be called,to try and generate intrest down south.....it will end up like Crusaders is my opinion.
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| On the forum they still have the harlequins badge. It all seems rather strange. I think i prefer london broncos to harlequins but if its just a name change nothing else then i dont see the point they need to do it properly.
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "On the forum they still have the harlequins badge. It all seems rather strange. I think i prefer london broncos to harlequins but if its just a name change nothing else then i dont see the point they need to do it properly.'"
Perhaps the lack of synchronisation on the forum might have something to do with the fact that RLFans has no affiliation to the club????
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| Quote: Big lads mate "What next for Harlequins/Broncos,who ever you want to be called,to try and generate intrest down south.....it will end up like Crusaders is my opinion.'"
They've been going 30 years now! Bet the crusaders wish they could say that.
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| Although they have been at it for 30 years the fans, that the Quins/Broncos do have, deserve imense credit for sticking with the London team through its many changes.
The Harlequins experiment has simply not worked.
The plan may have been to piggy back RL on the back of a strong name and tradition (albeit in Union), but the reverse has happened and professional RL in London now looks weaker than ever before.
I hope they get sorted and move away from the Quins name and start to build again.
Personally, I've always enjoyed the day out down there and wish them well.
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| Best thing that London could do is ditch the identity all together play as exiles and try attract some of the Oz/kiwi/South African punters to their games. I know some of the diehards will not want to hear this but most english southerners want Union or Football and not league. They need to be looking at the australasian people live and work in london as these are people they could be attracting to their games. Did anyone notice that the Aussies versus the Kiwi's game got a bigger crowd than the England game.?
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| Quote: supercat "Best thing that London could do is ditch the identity all together play as exiles and try attract some of the Oz/kiwi/South African punters to their games. I know some of the diehards will not want to hear this but most english southerners want Union or Football and not league. They need to be looking at the australasian people live and work in london as these are people they could be attracting to their games. Did anyone notice that the Aussies versus the Kiwi's game got a bigger crowd than the England game.?'"
And how exactly does the quota system play a part in this exiles team?
Free tickets didn't attract many punters last season so why would they pay to see an 'Exile' team?
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| Quota won't play a part let them have as many Aussies as possible. What i am saying is there is a massive amount of People from the Southern Hemisphere living in London and maybe giving the team more of a Southern Hemisphere identity will bring these potential fans out of the wood work to get behind a team based in London. It's not worked getting the English born londoners their so time for a change if you ask me.
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| Quote: supercat "Quota won't play a part let them have as many Aussies as possible. What i am saying is there is a massive amount of People from the Southern Hemisphere living in London and maybe giving the team more of a Southern Hemisphere identity will bring these potential fans out of the wood work to get behind a team based in London. It's not worked getting the English born londoners their so time for a change if you ask me.'"
A ridiculous idea - allow them to have whatever quota players they want and give them a massive advantage over other clubs to try and attract supporters who are not English.
How does that improve the spread of the game outside of the traditional areas and develop players from elsewhere???
If it's still not working now after 30 years of trying we'd be better off giving up on them totally and try and focus on another area nearer to home. I've always said I'm not against expansion but it needs to push outwards from the roots and not be just dumped somewhere where there is no interest.
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| But that will never happen Sky want a London team no matter what. I would rather they looked elsewhere as it's flogging a dead horse if you ask me. My opinion is based on if we can't get rid what's the best option for the club to progress even if it has to be a radicle approach. With regards to letting them sign Aussies they will still be salary capped thus only buying in players that either can't get in an NRL club or are not earning enough abroad.
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| Quote: supercat "But that will never happen Sky want a London team no matter what. I would rather they looked elsewhere as it's flogging a dead horse if you ask me. My opinion is based on if we can't get rid what's the best option for the club to progress even if it has to be a radicle approach. With regards to letting them sign Aussies they will still be salary capped thus only buying in players that either can't get in an NRL club or are not earning enough abroad.'"
TBH i think its the RFL that want a London club rather than SKY.
I have never read or heard anything accredited to SKY stating that London is particularly important, however the RFL every franchise round so far have protected London in one way or another.
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| Quote: supercat "Quota won't play a part let them have as many Aussies as possible. What i am saying is there is a massive amount of People from the Southern Hemisphere living in London and maybe giving the team more of a Southern Hemisphere identity will bring these potential fans out of the wood work to get behind a team based in London. It's not worked getting the English born londoners their so time for a change if you ask me.'"
What a complete crock. How do you then encourage growth in the amateur and school game in London? Great way to sell the sport to the youth, "Come play Rugby League with no chance of ever playing professionally in London"
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| The very notion of a single club covering 'London' is potty - it's a massive area and has no single identity, hence the fact that it supports god knows how many wendyball teams who get massive crowds on a weekly basis.
What they really need is all the money that is currently slashed up against the wall on the SL club, to be redirected to the grassroots game - i.e junior teams, schools development and community work, with 2 or 3 lower league teams, covering more of the conurbations, for those people and their families to support.
A SL club may emerge naturally from that in a number of years, but it's become clear that a SL team can't be hot-housed; it hasn't worked in London and it didn't work in Wales.
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| no need for professional sport for growth to take place in schools, take basket ball for example - one of biggest sports in schools but no realistic prospect of playing it pro.
Pro RL in London is like the kings invisible clothes - no one in the RL media cabal feels brave enough to state what is blindingly obvious to us peasants on the terraces. No one cares about pro RL in London save a few hundred die hards (for whom I have considerable respect by the way). RL in the UK as a professional sport is an M62 corridore sport. No shame in that - done fine for over 100 years. 30 years of trying in London and the club have failed to develop a sustainable spectator base despite positive measure after positive measure to help them on and off the field.
The RFL higher ups rhetoric of 'we need a club in the capital' is short hand for 'we want to be governing body for a national sport and a club in London tickles that part of our ego.'
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| Quote: bren2k "The very notion of a single club covering 'London' is potty - it's a massive area and has no single identity, hence the fact that it supports god knows how many wendyball teams who get massive crowds on a weekly basis.
What they really need is all the money that is currently slashed up against the wall on the SL club, to be redirected to the grassroots game - i.e junior teams, schools development and community work, with 2 or 3 lower league teams, covering more of the conurbations, for those people and their families to support.
A SL club may emerge naturally from that in a number of years, but it's become clear that a SL team can't be hot-housed; it hasn't worked in London and it didn't work in Wales.'"
Kind of agree, I'd have hoped the long term view (yes i know 30 years has passed) would be that we would have a Norths, Souths, Easts and Wests in London all doing their part for junior development and having genuine derby games.
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