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| Just been given some strange foreign beer called Belle Vue and it got me thinking, where did the name of our famous old ground come from?. When you think about it we are not the only ones, Doncaster Rovers football teams ex ground was called Belle Vue and off the top off my head theres a Belle Vue speedway team. Any ideas?.
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| It's French for 'beautiful view' or something. And I think there is a Belgian brewery named Belle Vue.
There is also a cafe in the Pyrenees on the border of Spain and France called Belle Vue.
Any more Belle Vues out there ????????
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| Quote: Pilchard "It's French for 'beautiful view' or something. And I think there is a Belgian brewery named Belle Vue.
There is also a cafe in the Pyrenees on the border of Spain and France called Belle Vue.
Any more ????????'"
Thats the strange foreign beer!.
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| Quote: Did you know?. "Just been given some strange foreign beer called Belle Vue and it got me thinking, where did the name of our famous old ground come from?. When you think about it we are not the only ones, Doncaster Rovers football teams ex ground was called Belle Vue and off the top off my head theres a Belle Vue speedway team. Any ideas?.'"
Geoffery Moorehouse answers this question, I think, in his book of rugby league essays,'Down at the George'
Will try and dig it out and have a look, otherwise I'm sure someone on here has the answer
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| Wasn't there a hospital called Belle Vue hospital on the site before the ground?
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| Just looked at a map from when the ground was built but there was still a field where St Catherine Street now is. Belle Vue is in large letters over the area, and so it is not specific to Trin.
And in 1854, there was a "Belle Vue House" where the Sugar Lane cemetery is now.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "Just looked at a map from when the ground was built but there was still a field where St Catherine Street now is. Belle Vue is in large letters over the area, and so it is not specific to Trin.
And in 1854, there was a "Belle Vue House" where the Sugar Lane cemetery is now.
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I always thought it covered the area, hence also Belle Isle in the vicinity. Probably was a lovely view a couple of hundred years ago too.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "Just looked at a map from when the ground was built but there was still a field where St Catherine Street now is. Belle Vue is in large letters over the area, and so it is not specific to Trin.
And in 1854, there was a "Belle Vue House" where the Sugar Lane cemetery is now.
'"was this a manor house belonging to some gentry ?
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| Slightly different issue, but I found this just nowhttp://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wakefield/trinity/medal.htmlrl
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| Quote: Did you know?. "Just been given some strange foreign beer called Belle Vue and it got me thinking, where did the name of our famous old ground come from?. When you think about it we are not the only ones, Doncaster Rovers football teams ex ground was called Belle Vue and off the top off my head theres a Belle Vue speedway team. Any ideas?.'"
There's also a belle vue area in Manchester an area that have a belle vue speed way team, and not that you know actually had a championship winning RL team in the early 1900s the Belle vue Rangers. Who later folded and formed the Broughton Rangers who played out of the cliff in salford now used by Manchester United as a training base.
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www.wakefield.gov.uk/CultureAndL ... ldCity.htm
Here's a link to Wakey gov site, which talks about the Wakefield longstanding links with France, with the Fluer di Lys etc. Maybe the name Belle vue is somehow linked with that french connection? An ancient estate???
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www.wakefield.gov.uk/CultureAndL ... ldCity.htm
Here's a link to Wakey gov site, which talks about the Wakefield longstanding links with France, with the Fluer di Lys etc. Maybe the name Belle vue is somehow linked with that french connection? An ancient estate???
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| Quote: BLUEJAYWAY "www.wakefield.gov.uk/CultureAndLeisure/HistoricWakefield/CoatOfArms/WakefieldCity.htm
Here's a link to Wakey gov site, which talks about the Wakefield longstanding links with France, with the Fluer di Lys etc. Maybe the name Belle vue is somehow linked with that french connection? An ancient estate???
And thinking about it, Portobella doesn't sound that Anglo Saxon, because on the map there is a Portobella House.
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| I think Portobello comes from a house of roughy the same name Porto Bello. This was owned (I think) by a Portugese man Juan Fernandez who was a wine importer a couple of centuries ago. In Portugese it means Good Harbour/Port etc. I found this looking through old records in the County Archive possibly 20 odd years ago. The area of the grounds of the house cover the area now known as Portobello, including the park. I believe the area is still known for alcohol-related activities!
On another note Flanshaw estate was bulit on the lands of Flanshaw Hall (I think again) so all these places seems to have links with the landed gentry.
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| Quote: sandcat20 "On another note Flanshaw estate was bulit on the lands of Flanshaw Hall (I think again) so all these places seems to have links with the landed gentry.'"
You would seem to be right, as this is the area in 1848, although was the Hall named after the Hill, or vise versa?
It looks like Dewsbury Road goes up where "The Grove" is and cuts right through Flanshaw Hall, to join up up with the road that used to run past the pit.
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| Will there be a Bell End View at Newmarket ?
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