Date please then mopsey so you then love or die by your sword

Yes it would help.

Please tell us all

No I don't think they've run out of money.
But my only basis is the accounts for lsst year and the fact no one has complained they are not being paid.
I have no more info to base my opinion on, as I suspect do you.

let me make this clear at no time am I saying there is anything underhand, the club made the share offer in December 23 in January 23 we announced we'd bought a new mower. The shares were filed in July 23 but dated march 23. At the bottom of the share list is carter's dad with 300000, all I wanted to know was for what purpose did he have to stick all that money in with no return on it. Great gesture by the way.

Wait a minute.
I'm a failure as a supporter and stupid for not believing we have no money and accepting mediocrity yet you now say its a great gesture and you just want to know why people gave money?

Some mixed messages there.

My take on it simply is we needed money to do more improvements to team and club. Not the same as needing money to stave off administration.

The very fact we used member money to buy new mower and do a bore hole kinda indicates that. Both handy. Neither is a do or die purchase.

For all I know we may be in financial trouble, I don't get to see the day to day finances.
But the donations and accounts do not indicate that.

yes great gesture by carter's dad, idiocy by you lot and you are a failure. Your partly responsible for this mess accepting mediocrity and every spoken word, like it or not you and others have let the club down

When you say we are failures and partly responsible..... what is it you think we could have done better that would have helped?

If the club and players had put the same effort , pride and passion into their game as the fans had done backing them this season i’m pretty sure we wouldn’t be in this sorry position we find ourselves in

Still waiting on that date Mopsey.......

Probably boycott the club and not assist financially and show less support. These fans are clueless and the reality is that they are the problem and part of the reason why the club is where it is.

Like anything else in life they blame others and not themselves.

For those who turned up, supported the club financially and in spirit and believed in the team. Well done, it’s been a tough year and you did your best.

Hearing from more and more folk that whatever happens we won't be relegated. I can't see us surviving personally and we don't deserve to, but stranger things have happened in Rugby League.

Who was it that regularly complained that it was the supporters fault we could not spend the maximum cap.

Silence is golden mopsey!!!

I hope supporters don’t believe that our redeveloped ground will guarantee our place in SL. It will not, ok the east stand will look good but the changes to the original plan have limited its impact when up against other clubs both in the SL and the championship. The west stand is an eyesore and unless it is developed it will go against us on the ratings.

About half of the championship clubs have a stadium which on the face of it are better than ours is currently, and of the super league clubs there's probably only Cas which is worse than ours, there's also some better grounds than ours in C1.

Realistically looking at it, we've probably got around the 18-20th best stadium even with the new stand

I can't remember how many times I've had to explain this.
It is part of the criteria. It won't saves us on it's own but if we didn't have it we'd be even further away.
And it potentially makes money which many of those stadiums do not.

You're right, it is part of the criteria, but given about 20 clubs will score higher than us on it, it's probably not a big swing factor. Too many fans who are up the backside of the board seem to think we've developed the greatest stadium in the world

What would save us though is investment in the team to secure a higher league position, and investment in the fans so that they increase the fanbase both online and in person - but the club don't seem interested in doing that, or if they are, have spectacularly failed to do so and have instead left a divided and dissolutioned fanbase which is getting smaller and smaller

you are arguing with people with agendas

That's tickled me mopsey. In reality we all have agendas. Some people act on their agenda so at least are doing something rightly or wrongly. We know your agenda but seem unable to answer one simple question, you know the datebut obviously evading answering.

Investment in fans?

Because of the way the score is worked out, we would have to finish lower than 4th to impact the points in the grading for performance as its done over a 3 year average.
The stadium would impact immediately and the floodlights and screen alone would be equivalent to us finishing 3 places higher ( consistently over 3 years)
The new stand adds to the score for stadium 3, finances for income outside funding and balance sheet which would be 3 of the 5 finance points and I guess attendance as we were having to reduce attendance but playing in Championship will reduce that again....however, if we stay above average 3k crowd we don't lose points compared to what we had in SL because of the grouping.

So like it or not, that stand and stadium redevelopment is more valuable than staying in Super League this year.
Of course it would have been nice to do both.

By the statement ( up the backside ) do you means fans who turn out every week home and away or those keyboard warriors that sit at home and spew vile nonsense on a regular basis but don’t go to games . I’ll hold my hand up I’m in the former camp , I backed my club , not happy with lots of things but what choice did we have , don’t go and let the club fold . Hopefully now things will change for the good both on and off the field

What about the catchment area weighting because next season we will be of the three, outside SL.

I don't after evade but I certainly don't dance to anyone's tunes especially grovellers to this regime. When there's a clear cut off between the old regime and the new it will be announced. A clean break and a line drawn under this lot and and a brighter future.

Yes, investment in fans. Building the fanbase is the first criteria under IMG but the club are going backwards in this area with less and less fans turning up to the games or engaging with them on social media. It takes investment from the club to build this up both in terms of better marketing, better social media management, to providing a better fan environment at the games. Some of that is done by investing in the team so that people will enjoy their visit, and some of it is building on the wider match day experience. Just selling beer and bovril from a shed like in the 1970's doesn't cut it any more.