Well done to the fans who turned out to support the club at Bradford today. The performance didn't do justice to the fans. Very disappointed!!

If you didn't look at the top I could easily think I was reading about bradford. We both watch games where we call into question why we should give up our time and money when the players act like they can't be arisd.

But with 6 points to playawith its your relegation fight to throw away. I just can't see it happening. Even if we get 2 back I really think you'll be able to limp over the line. Or finish 9th with a wet sail!

Your former coach reckons that Bradford will be getting 4 points back, which laves Bradford only 2 behind.

What does he know though? If I were to put money on it I'd bet on no points coming back but the chance of 2.

Mind you we are both thinking the worst from each perspective.

After the lack of any effort last week how did anyone expect us to turn this around against the Bulls. Even in the media lately our coaches and players seem really down beat. Come on!!! Lets have some John Kear spirit!

Mather's disallowed for obstruction, looked ok to me but then again it's bound to and I was a good 150m away.

It's a disgrace if Bradford get any more or less than 2 back, 4 point penalty is the standard for going into admin and I fail to see how their case is any different. (although happy to be enlightened)

How could he possibly know that ? if that's the case it matters not because we've squandered enough points to guarantee our on safety.

It seems to me we've been relying on the Bulls points deduction to keep us safe, well that's not going to work.

But we are doing our best to throw it away at the moment.

Fight you for him.

Which former coach reckons we will get 4 points back?

Guessing it may be Jimmy Lowes.

Erm. More OR less? In other words we should get 2?

If so he'll be about as 'in the know' as you or I.

In my opinion 2 back would be fair, any more and the game is bent, any less and Bradford have been hard done to.

Seeing as we have handed them 4 pts Its reasonable to think the appeal panel will also.

I'll be surprised if we get any points back and despite us beating you today I'd rather be in your shoes than ours.

I'll be hoping you hang onto Agar tho!

They shouldn't get any points back unless they pay a significant number of creditors off and even then it's a maximum of 2 points

Mathers try was obtruction and was probably the correct call given whats gone on this season. Our guy pushed him by the looks of it. Kear should have also gone to the bin with Moore though. If Bradford get 4 back i think we will go down whilstever Agar is in charge.

Today was terrible and a slight improvement in the second half doesn't mask it to anybody who has ever been involved in the game. The Bulls were comfortable and just played out a simple game plan as the game was won by halftime. We never particulalrly worried them enough to look like a comeback was on the cards. A select few of our guys get an average rating, the rest were very poor. The lack of urgency worried me the most. And a few of them looked liked they couldn't really care less.

Does anyone know who Agar was referring to in his post-match comments about "dodging/pulling out of tackles"?

Shouldn't matter to us how they get back, we should have opened the gap by now.

This is down to squad tinkering imo.

I thought Ryan was your stand out player, he seemed a real handful and caused our defence problems all match.

Re the points appeal, I'm happy to let the independent experts decide whether everything was done correctly and fairly. If the points deduction stands, I certainly won't be whinging about it and will accept their decision.

Sounds like the way to describe a typical mathers performance

Was told Sidlow ran in and started punching which also which should have earned him a card. Also Agar says that they have seen the replay of the Mathers try several times and should have been awarded. I haven't though so can't say.

Exactly, let the powers that be sort it.

Normally you'd be right but I thought Mathers played well today, looked handy going forward and returned the kicks well enough. It was around the middle we were getting beaten, Wildie and Kirmond were the ones I noticed dropping off tackles. I'd really love to know what has happened to DK, I wasn't expecting another year like last year but he has not performed all season. Such a shame for such a good player and bloke.