If we build higher but shift the stand nearer to Doncaster Road then in theory the loss of light could be less. Not an expert, but draw it on graph paper with a protractor thing

I’m prepared to hang fire before castigating all and sundry, however.

Let’s be fair the club hasn’t got a pot to pee in, yet they, moreover, the supporters were seduced with the promise of a sy new ground – for free!

The Express states that the redevelopment of B.V was the clubs only hope, why’s that then, somebody must know?

So, the NM stadium was going to cost £19M, how much of that was the developer of NM putting into that fund?

We’ve all heard the stories of Rodney Walker securing funds from here & there, will this still be the case with the re-development of BV?

If the figure of £5M being bandied about is the sum total, well, that’s going to get bugger all, I think Leeds new stand cost in the region of £7M, a few years ago.

All this with the backdrop of the fear of relegation, I’m getting to the end of my tether.

That's exactly what I was alluding to in my post earlier about the stadium cost being £19 million.

I know that YCP weren't stumping anywhere near that amount up but I'd be hugely disappointed if they got away with just £5million, quite frankly I'd settle for no less than double that amount

Just thinking in the last 30 years of planned new stadiums we've had Pugneys,old power station,j39 durker, roundwood, thornes park( that would have been perfect) and Newmarket + numerous plans to redevelop Belle Vue surely one day one of our plans will actually come good

I know what you mean, they will have a hell of a lotta land down at NM to develop and rent out being freed-up, forever for a one off payment.
How quiet is MC on twitter? Unless he is airborne on the way home.

Another resigned sigh.

From a personal point of view, give me a redeveloped Belle Vue any day. From the club's point of view, it is less risk, provided they can resolve ownership and rent issues. I say less risk because we can get decent crowds when we play well in Belle Vue as it.

As a footprint, Belle Vue is pretty big. There is a lot of space behind the posts at both ends, although not enough for any parking, of course.

I don't buy into the car parking issue too much. There isn't any at Warrington, Leeds or Widnes, three modern grounds, and they seem to do alright. There is plenty at Salford and Leigh, two modern grounds with parking, and it is a complete pain to get away from both. The surrounding area is a drawback, but then again it has the plus of being the historic home.

The issue for the development might be that the locals against may argue they have been duped, in that the groundswell for the development was because of the ground, not because of the warehouses, and then lo and behold, no ground. I would feel cheated. Does that mean there is some significant obligation on the developers to come up with the goods on Belle Vue?

I don't see planning permission as a huge hurdle. An upgrade of an existing facility isn't likely to be too problematic. The capacity is unlikely to be changed significantly. The East Stand would be a like-for-like, I expect. The impact of the West Stand is the only potential issue, as so much of it is now open, and any new standard would be a lot higher.

How high was the original West stand - see other thread for comments etc, (not the numerous RA out threads, but you never know!). Does that create a precedent and also a 'slight' shift eastwards in order for access at the back.

The new stand at Leeds might have cost 7m, but that was a beast. What do we realistically need? The North Stand is probably okay as it is, and the hospitality flats could stay. So you are looking at a covered terrace on one side, similar to Warrington, and covered seating on the other, similar to Warrington.

Way too reasonable. I can't think anything other than it's all a loada balls and I'm sick to the back teeth of it all. How can we possibly rely on anything we hear?

And if that's what we end up with after being shown and promised a new stadium it'll represent a massive disappointment.

As I see it the Section 106 agreement for NM remains so for York court to continue the development of the site they are committed to providing a community stadium. Does this have to be NM no. Could it be a commuity stadium on the existing BV site yes. How valuable to Irish bank is BV with current covenants attached, if we are now not planning to move away there is a real opportunity to buy back with 106 monies as is buying the Super Bowl site which opens up potential to do other things with the ground, change the pitch around east to west. We have always been skint so sec 106 monies in the bank will hopefully these plans more of a reality rather than a dream. I back daddy cools judgement and hope that in partnership with the council, community trust and the people who have been providing the energy to make something happen for more years than we care to mention can finally deliver a solution which is positive for the future of the club and it's loyal fans. I personally are more confident that we will after all these years see something happen.

I know what you mean but I'd stopped believing that Newmarket was going to happen. If the upside is that the developers are obliged to develop Belle Vue in some way, I can live with that, provided that it isn't a patch up job.

sounds to me like York court, or who ever is behind building the industrial estate on NM, has had our pants down. They've got what they want, or atleast the start of it. Now they've left us in the lurch, or atleast that's how it seems.

The two stands down the side at Warrington are exactly what I would want from a rugby league ground.

The biggest concern would be if all we get is a few new roofs and a lick of paint. Belle Vue (despite the sterling efforts of Snowie et al) is not fit to serve as a modern sports stadia. It needs knocking down & rebuilding any less would be a fob off!