I agree that we over play it way too often. It seems to come from too many of our guys wanting to take the easy option and not doing the hard work. Also as a team we seem more than a little dim.

We would win a fight it seems

Small squad playing with injured players. We were very lucky last season with injuries. Get people back fit and our first 17 will compete with anyone. Don't be so down

Meanwhile Bradford won and both KR and FC are winning - our top 8 race is almost run - a nightmare scenario when the club are wanting to know by how much they can put ST's up!

8th try just scored - we are on another planet!

Cobblers - only Kirmond missing today!

Like who exactly? Theres only Kirmo missing! Although I doubt Tim Smith, Collis and Ali are fully fit.

Looks like cas and us are becomeing a joke

Wig scoring at will with no-one laying a hand on the scorer/s.
But shock - we have scored.
also answer this, with a man down why do we have 2 players on bench who haven't been used after 50 mins?

Two tier SL coming our way

Big Ali on, game on.

It's already here!

Given the ball away early again.

Give them a break, Wigan are in a purple patch and have creamed most teams, we aren't doing the best the last few weeks but by the sounds of it we are pulling together. The last thing we need with a few players getting injured is the fans turning. Blimey we have been much much worse than this.

How is it cobblers? I said PLAYING with injured players. Loads playing with jabs to get them through games and people being brought back too early or not 100% fit. I'd bet that's the reason kirmond was again missing today.

Exactly, nevermind the negatives, HKR 84-6 at their place and we aren't doing that bad to be honest at Wigans place. Aswell as being with 12 men.

Aiton in again.

But he's not SL standard!

Sounds like the lads are doing a decent job against an on-fire Wigan side?

Got to credit them for not throwing the towel in though, this could have ended up embarrassing but they dug in. Just wish we could play a little bit smarter at times.

I'm not turning on them and it's not based on one game - we have played poorly all season - even in London - and we have brought the punishment on ourselves. If we could reduce the number of stupid penalties and poor handling errors then we CAN compete with the best, but until we learn to do that then we will be down amongst the deadmen!

It's frustrating!

He is



They have dug in and good on em, never easy one man down.

Of course you are not, like you say its just frustrating watching a team that seems to beat itself at times.

No more Wakey, make that the last one.

What happened with the sending off - justified?

Then we need to use the squad better - I'd rather see us play a couple more young-uns if players aren't fit.

Kirmond was crocked in Mondays game.

IF we had done the job on Monday and against Salford then today would be easier to swallow. I know things could change around, but can we honestly turn up to any game and be sure of a performance at the moment?

I agree. But if injured players are playing, they take it in the neck if they are not playing as well as they can, it could look like they are not trying etc. not really fair on them. But I hear your frustrations.