Nice try lads but Bradford easily win the Whinge Watch award this week.

Come on, this thread is less than 24 hrs old, we will easily win that award!

The first half momentum seemed to shift when Wood was brought on in place of Lauitiiti, Huddersfield absolutely crucified him by constantly targeting him in defence. I’m surprised Annakin wasn’t brought on instead. Poor substitution form Agar IMO. That, the poor ball retention and the constant panicking in try for a pass that wasn’t on were Trinity’s downfall. I was too busy celebrating to see the forward pass but whether it was forward or not Referee’s judgements are out of the team’s control.


It was a scrappy game but for intensity and drama I loved it, just a shame about the ending.

Wasn't a scrappy game at all but we all see it different.

Watched it on telly, was just a forward pass but on any other day we may have got it....never mind.

We didnt help ourselves but the thing that got me most was the fact Shudds were being criminal with the laying on and getting away with it.

Absolutely right, do the same with Tim Smiths and you'll see it is also forward by about 2 metres. The problem is one was allowed to stand and one was ruled out!

have you guys been on the receiving end of the 'swirly arm' thing yet? Catalans made 4 high tackles in 5 minutes darn't lane today and nothing said.

Hauraki also had his nose broke with seconds left but no penalty given

ref's favouring the away teams both sides of the common by the sounds of it, we also had a try disallowed for a FP but the dragons had one given.

key word: CONSISTENCY

I have to agree with Vastman here I thought Shudds were in full gear. We battered their forwards Ralleigh, Poore and Amor outstanding Wilkes is so off pace its untrue he got KR back in the game and he did same against Huddersfield. Silverwood and the touch judges lost it for Wakey as Paul Anderson said the best team lost. Thought Kyle Woods display was extremely poor when he came on. Shudds were battered and bruised you were extremely lucky!

What makes me laugh with seasons gone by is at the start of the season ref's scrutinise and over penalise certain parts of the game e.g play the ball and obstruction. Six games in and they could not care less, now that is bad consistency.

That's how I saw it on full-time, as well as JM's first try, which was even more forward. Smith to Smith was forward but that was the one that was picked up on.

Perhaps it is harder to spot on long passes because mentally you allow for momentum of the ball, and sometimes short flat passes can look forward when they are flat because of the different speed of the runner collecting the ball.

I blame Lee Smith's years at Leeds, because they don't play the forward pass rule in front of the South Stand.

From my point of view (as a neutral... but with a rather large Trinity bias) I thought that the Smith to Smith pass was forward and (sorry!) that Silverwood got this call right. Tim didn't have much forward momentum when he passed the ball to Lee and while it was a brilliantly spotted opportunity and well executed, it was forward by a couple of yards.

The difference with the Huddersfield final try pass was indeed the momentum. When the pass went out to JM the passer (can't recall whom it was) he was running at full tilt and his hands appeared to pass the ball backwards but equally the ball was received a couple of yards from the point of passing... but this doesn't make it a forward pass of course, as we know!

I think that maybe 50% of the time, Tim Smith's pass if given as good and the other 50% pulled up. I think with the Hudds one, then maybe 80% of those are given and I think from the only camera angle I saw, then it was more difficult to call and it may or may not have been forward.

As for the rest of Silverwood's performance I can't comment, but I don't think you were cheated in relation to these two incidents and over a season, these calls will even themselves up.

I'd say feet not yards

We'll have to agree to disagree I think. I agree with you as regards Tim Smiths pass, however Luke Robinsons momentum is very much lateral rather than forwards and having watched it several times at full speed and in slo-mo I would say that the release of the ball is not in a backwards direction.
Not that it matters much now, as they say, read the papers! but it does look to me (however many times I view it) that the two passes were very similar but only one was pulled up!