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| and some other ideas
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is there an email marketing scheme, ie you buy online you register you get benefits and newsletters, rather than coming on here and just making it all up?
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talk to local shops in other town centre, ossett / horbury / normanton etc etc,I really think the club shop location does us no good at all
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talk to other orgs who target every wmdc postcode periodically about a deal for an insert, wakefield college etc etc
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Involve our biggesrt asset and best known asset to the public at large, who is.........mr Kear
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"The wakey public are a disgrace ! Bring the new ground A.S.A.P
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5000 all seater? 
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| Quote ="chapster"and some other ideas
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is there an email marketing scheme, ie you buy online you register you get benefits and newsletters, rather than coming on here and just making it all up?
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talk to local shops in other town centre, ossett / horbury / normanton etc etc,I really think the club shop location does us no good at all
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talk to other orgs who target every wmdc postcode periodically about a deal for an insert, wakefield college etc etc
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Involve our biggesrt asset and best known asset to the public at large, who is.........mr Kear'"
Agree about club shop location. It's soo much hassle for me to get down to club shop during the week and on match days it's eithier too busy or I lose track of time in pub so only time I ever go in the shop is start of season to get new top and season ticket and odd time to pick up tickets for other games
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| Quote ="darwoo11"5000 all seater?
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man goes in to a shop a buy a laptop, woman says will you need all the keys sir?
darwodd, for it is he replies, no only the ones that can type my iq
woman says..come back tuesday , well have the numbers 5 to nine removed and a nice big fisher price hammer for you to hit it with
man turns away and walks in to door, pushing vigourously as he cannot understand the pull sign, for he..my readers is an idiot.
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| Quote ="chapster"man goes in to a shop a buy a laptop, woman says will you need all the keys sir?
darwodd, for it is he replies, no only the ones that can type my iq
woman says..come back tuesday , well have the numbers 5 to nine removed and a nice big fisher price hammer for you to hit it with
man turns away and walks in to door, pushing vigourously as he cannot understand the push sign, for he..my readers is an idiot.'"
Very good sire.
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| I was concerned by the crap attendance on Saturday - it was rubbish. However, it is not just a Wakefield thing...most clubs pull rubbish crowds when you expect them to be packed out.
It seems to be a RL thing, the thing is what can we do to change it?
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| Quote ="Johnoco"I was concerned by the crap attendance on Saturday - it was rubbish. However, it is not just a Wakefield thing...most clubs pull rubbish crowds when you expect them to be packed out.
It seems to be a RL thing, the thing is what can we do to change it?'"
Stop showing games live on SKY - oh hang on, they pay the wages!!!
Make season tickets a real bargain, like Hudds last year - too much of a gamble.
Sell tickets for £12 from four weeks before a game, put them up £3 a week as the game approaches and DON'T advertise which games will be live on SKY - this will mean SKY can't change schedules at short notice, but is this a bad thing?
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| One solution I’ve recently thought of is encrypting the Sky signal so that where ever the game is live from, the local areas population are unable to view it from their homes. I don’t know how feasible it is or how popular it would be, but it would certainly put the stay at homes in a dilemma. I would hope it would push them towards the ground rather then just not bothering either way.
A little draconian, but it’s an idea.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"DON'T advertise which games will be live on SKY - this will mean SKY can't change schedules at short notice, but is this a bad thing?'"
How do you propse that to work? Sky can't mention what game they'll have on. He who pays the piper calls the tune, and if we have to move games for them, I'm sure the money they provide outweighs that of the minority of supporters who have to change major plans.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"Stop showing games live on SKY - oh hang on, they pay the wages!!!
Make season tickets a real bargain, like Hudds last year - too much of a gamble.
Sell tickets for £12 from four weeks before a game, put them up £3 a week as the game approaches and DON'T advertise which games will be live on SKY - this will mean SKY can't change schedules at short notice, but is this a bad thing?'"
sky pay the bills so sky set the rules not us, end of...
The true problem is a mixture of the recession, and a large slice of apathy for the good souls of Wakefield who can't be d to go and watch a winning side!!!
The amount of people I speak to who say " wakey are doing well aren't they!" and I reply "yeah they are, have you been going?" and they say "no!!" is unbellievable!!! "Well I used to go but they were bloody rubbish so I stopped!" well they aren't loosing every week and they aren't bloody rubbish so get off your s and go and watch em!!!!
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"One solution I’ve recently thought of is encrypting the Sky signal so that where ever the game is live from, the local areas population are unable to view it from their homes. I don’t know how feasible it is or how popular it would be, but it would certainly put the stay at homes in a dilemma. I would hope it would push them towards the ground rather then just not bothering either way.
A little draconian, but it’s an idea.'"
Followed by bringing back public flogging and no women allowed to vote.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Followed by bringing back public flogging and no women allowed to vote.'"
What the hells wrong with that 
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"One solution I’ve recently thought of is encrypting the Sky signal so that where ever the game is live from, the local areas population are unable to view it from their homes. I don’t know how feasible it is or how popular it would be, but it would certainly put the stay at homes in a dilemma. I would hope it would push them towards the ground rather then just not bothering either way.
A little draconian, but it’s an idea.'"
Yes but they don't do that for other sports do they and they seem to still get bums on seats. For important games anyway.
Believe it or not, I have a lot of time for Wakey as a club, I am just concerned at the message it gives out to get such a poor crowd for a big game.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"One solution I’ve recently thought of is encrypting the Sky signal so that where ever the game is live from, the local areas population are unable to view it from their homes.'"
And accept a reduction in the Sky contract next time round?
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| Quote ="Johnoco"Yes but they don't do that for other sports do they and they seem to still get bums on seats. For important games anyway.
Believe it or not, I have a lot of time for Wakey as a club, I am just concerned at the message it gives out to get such a poor crowd for a big game.'"
Why don’t Sky show any football games on a Saturday at 3pm? It’s to protect the crowd figures at all football clubs who play at that time.
To be honest I don’t think anyone other then RL fans are particularly bothered by attendances. I don’t think it particularly sends out any sort of message other then Wakefield hardcore is support is about 4-5K. All four play off games were poorly attended, with reflection upon hardcore average with no away support it stands up well to the other matches.
£18 is too much money for a casual supporter to spend when they can watch for free at home or in the pub. Poor crowd, yes, a game to whet the appetite of those other then hardcore support, no.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"And accept a reduction in the Sky contract next time round?'"
Why would a reduction be on the cards, they still broadcast the match, Sky subscribers will still be paying for it and have access to Sky Sports, they don’t lose any money.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"And accept a reduction in the Sky contract next time round?'"
Why would that happen?
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Why don’t Sky show any football games on a Saturday at 3pm? It’s to protect the crowd figures at all football clubs who play at that time.'"
Of course, and is a UEFA rule - [urlhttp://www.uefa.com/uefa/News/Kind=8192/newsId=19817.html[/url - but that is different from what you are proposing.
The contract between the RFL/SL and BSkyB takes into account that some fans will stay away and watch at home - that's why they pay the amount they do - same with football, union and other sports. It is then down to the clubs, who all have these community and marketing departments, to sell these games to the public as that by going to the match they are getting some extra you can't get by watching at home or staying in the pub.
Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Why would a reduction be on the cards, they still broadcast the match, Sky subscribers will still be paying for it and have access to Sky Sports, they don’t lose any money.'"
Because the potential number of viewers, which they sell advertising based on, is reduced.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"Of course, and is a UEFA rule - [urlhttp://www.uefa.com/uefa/News/Kind=8192/newsId=19817.html[/url - but that is different from what you are proposing.
The contract between the RFL/SL and BSkyB takes into account that some fans will stay away and watch at home - that's why they pay the amount they do - same with football, union and other sports. It is then down to the clubs, who all have these community and marketing departments, to sell these games to the public as that by going to the match they are getting some extra you can't get by watching at home or staying in the pub.
Because the potential number of viewers, which they sell advertising based on, is reduced.'"
Believe me I don’t propose to take away the clubs responsibility to market the games and entice support through whatever means, it just takes away the easy option for people to stay at home and watch on TV no matter what offers the club puts on.
Anyhow it was just an idea and I’m sure it has many flaws.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"
£18 is too much money for a casual supporter to spend when they can watch for free at home or in the pub. Poor crowd, yes, a game to whet the appetite of those other then hardcore support, no.'"
But it costs about that to go and see Bradford City (if you pay on the gate) and that's hardly top flight.
Either RL fans are skint or tightwads or both! 
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| Quote ="Johnoco"But it costs about that to go and see Bradford City (if you pay on the gate) and that's hardly top flight.
Either RL fans are skint or tightwads or both!
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How much is a season ticket for Bradford City though? £100? With a season ticket that price an expensive match day attendance is needed to make up the loss.
… and again comparing football crowds to RL is pointless.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"… and again comparing football crowds to RL is pointless.'"
In direct numbers yes, but on a pro-rata basis we should be doing a lot better.
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| Quote ="chapster"ok heres my thoughts
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club shop must be relocated, and art present theres plenty of options, my personal favourite being a deal with an existing town centre sports shop , (even if its jjb) for a corner of their location, from this we base promotions, peiople like us could gwt involved as volunteers to a captive pre xmas audience, in the case of season tickets and shirts. If not this at least rent a unit up to xmas and have all the things people want available, discounted season tickets home and away shirts, naked pictures of players etc etc!
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Players to be available to these units to sign photos, books, shirts pose for pics etc on rota basis, but any big names ie tronc, newton, millard paraded in town centre, ok nicked his from puffball but its works and earns.
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Family deals for every games to include season ticket holders, felt for one posrter on here last night when he pointed out it cost 72 quid a game for him to take family, if youe a regular and can prove it (loyalty card anyone???) you get 3 home stamps for example you get 2 free kids tickets for next game, what would it hurt??? in fact maybe a loyalty card scheme anyway ?????
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nothing, there is noooooooooo fourth thing!'"
where's the 72 quid from ? 2 adults and 2 kids = £46 if tickets bought prior to game day !  with only £3 worth of fuel required then it can't have been that hard..or purchase over t'internet! 
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| i don't know if i am correct in this but there were not many kids dancing / playing prior to the game. the parents get concession prices for these but weren't they not allowed by the rfl for the play off games?
i know i have moaned before about them being there but it must improve the attendances somewhat.
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| Looks like the Giants fans are turning out in their thousands tonight !!
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