We do .... just not enough and not in the critical positions . Imo

If it's nothing to with the coaches why have we got one ,and every other team in S L including the teams in OZ

We have quality players that for whatever reason aren’t firing on all cylinders and haven’t been for some time .Is that the coach ,their fitness ,their attitudes, I really don’t know , but it needs to change and change quick as the clock is ticking and I really don’t to want to watch us in another million pound game ,my old ticker won’t take it ..

Didn't we bring in Last and Poching to assist CC? There's enough of them now working with the players all week but the performances just aren't there.

Too many cooks an all that

Not gonna slag cc off but cant defend him either and its between us and leigh for bottom

I can find one positive in amongst all this and that's that we seem to be able to defend really well for one half which to me, on the face of it, reflects well on the players attitudes? So wtf goes wrong? Is it the fact we know we can't score and the pressure gets to us? Ignoring everything else it's impossible to get away from the bare facts of our win percentage over best part of two seasons...

What was the post match excuse this time, whatever it was I am sure Chester will not take any of the blame.

As a full time score it's probably what I expected, the fact its a 40 minute score is a very worrying, we are in deep trouble.

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What was the post match excuse this time, whatever it was I am sure Chester will not take any of the blame.'" There you go https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09dxyhj

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What was the post match excuse this time, whatever it was I am sure Chester will not take any of the blame.'" There you go https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09dxyhj

Seriously I don't know what people are expecting
We had our full left side missing which is our key attacking force.
Miller went off during the game
No Tanginoa, Batch off

We kept a near full strength Sts side scoreless in first half with some good defense.

A couple of the tries were simply down to slow reactions from Kershaw.

And we played to the end in an effort to score.

It's a long season. We may not win another but we shouldn't be judging the season on losing to Leeds, Wigan and Sts away.
Even in our best seasons I wouldn't expect to bear them away.

It's going to be a problem if Miller is long term injury but we'll just have to do our best.

That's all well and good but the second half collapses are becoming a habit. And the less said about our toothless attack the better

Do you know what it's not a problem to actually believe in the club but the results and score line speak for them selves and your blind faith thinking it's going to turn around just amazes me, expecting to lose to these clubs is a pathetic attitude that will keep us at the bottom

Like it or not change has to happen

I don't expect to lose. I just look past the score sometimes to understand the reasons.
I don't like losing. But to be as distraught as some are on here is way over the top.

We have problems. There is no doubt.
But you as equally blind if you don't see the good that happened in the first half and the impact missing our two best attacking backs and our best attacking forward, our top tackler, while having 3 players play their first match this season and then losing your 6 and captain during the game against top of the league away.

For me that’s what makes it even worse. If we got blown off the park from the start then fair enough. But to have 2 completely polarised half’s, which has happened all season shows there’s something very odd going on.

I don't comment on games that I don't watch but I can comment on the result I see and games I listen to what through a bias radio station, you cannot take anything positive from a loss and a big loss at that

We failed to score against 12 men. I mean come on

We played a Leeds team missing two centres, one wing and the scrum half but they managed to beat us. We played a Wigan team missing two centres and a winger and they managed to beat us. The views reported by some on here are not just based on one, two or even three games but nearly two seasons worth. I would be happy if we had just lost the first three in isolation but we have lose 38 many of which were in the same manner.
I admire your loyalty to the club but unfortunately the club are stretching the loyalty of many supporters with the performances on the pitch.

Quote ="Luppylad"There you go https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09dxyhj'" I don’t know why they don’t use the same interview each week because they have all the same excuses other than he blames different players. This week it was Hampshire, a winger and Woods, I think he should look in the mirror and ask himself is it him.

Quote ="Luppylad"There you go https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09dxyhj'" I don’t know why they don’t use the same interview each week because they have all the same excuses other than he blames different players. This week it was Hampshire, a winger and Woods, I think he should look in the mirror and ask himself is it him.

Saints were without 5 of their first choice 17 - Percival, Knowles, Lees, Mata’utia & Smith. They had a guy sin binned and we got a hell of a lot of decisions our way first half. We never looked like scoring, just like we haven’t all season other than some individual efforts. Our kicking game is dire, despite the bigging up of our NRL signing. Whilst i admire your positivity you need to stop defending the indefensible and burying your head in the sand because the signs are there, we are dire and we are in trouble.

'Full left side missing, which is our attacking force'!
Give over, living off one stella season from Tupou, when he passed.
He's a winger and would be better with Arundel as his centre.
Too much loyalty to players, irrespective of how they play.

On the 5th May 2019 we beat Huddersfield by a point, 26-25. Since that date we have played a further 40 league & cup games against super league opposition and won 8 of them.

I’m sticking to what i’ve said for the last couple of weeks, Chester has until the end of the month to turn it around otherwise with the cup break it is time to walk. He needs damn good performances against Hull & Catalans with at least one win out of them or for me his position becomes untenable.

Unfortunately the Wakefield job is a coach killer. For numerous reasons such as, we don`t have a ground worthy of Superleague , a salary cap to match the other teams in the league or a sugar daddy backer who can afford to throw money in without thinking twice about it. A lot of the squad we have have been on the rugby merry go round before arriving here and the local talent we have nurtured is not coming through compared to other clubs, maybe because we haven`t the strength in squad to let young players play out wide and get used to the speed of which is expected of them. When they come in they are straight on the coal face expected to do the job. Yet still theres statiticians on here who can tell us our win to games ratio and come up with the conclusion that its the coaches fault. No coach sends out the message, come on lads lets get our s kicked for the supporters. Sometimes you have to admit that we are being beaten by a better set up team than ours.

you can't blame the ground for poor performances and poor attitude on the pitch it would match any club, that's where they apply their trade and yes no coach would send a team out to play bad but the team could if they have no faith in him and don't want to play for him, if they aren't then they are making a very poor job of it

I think its part of the problem PT, a lot of us were expecting what we got because we get the same every week and that's regardless of opposition, regardless of who we have out as a team, regardless of circumstances - We lose games in the exact same fashion with the exact same problems that lead us there. That's just not the first 4 games of the this season, which a stated all look very very similar, but all last season and the season before that too.

We seem to have this conversation every week with regards to, we were missing this player, we were missing that player, we had to switch this or that around when in actual fact zero changes regardless of who is out there, that's just been real. It made me laugh that then radio commentary team last night credited saints for blowing us a way in a 10 minute period but here's something for you, if I ask you to cast your mind back to last week you would get something very similar against Catalan, could just be a coincidence but look the week before against Wigan? Exact same, what about the week before against a patched up Leeds? Near identical.

And after all that if you still think it's a coincidence or anything to do with missng players or our opposition, you can probably go through yourself last years games and realise that the worrying trend was something that was there all year long regardless of who was on the pitch, regardless of who was in front of us.