Too true

Mine are older but i still can't get shut and thats why its expensive for me.

Dave, a couple of my family members who have never been to BV before asked me about coming to a game this season, untill i told them the price and i've not seen them since.

While i don't think its over priced myself they won't be bothering sadly.

maybe to you it isn't, but to people trying to get interested in the game it's outrageously expensive.

cause that's the idea of the RFl, right?

Thats my point Dave.

yeah exactly.

but I've started wondering what my money is actually going to

Out of interest Dave if cas were to circle the drain and come back out with a new owner and fresh board and none of the guys holding you back similar to us a few years back would you come back to it all knowing its not all going straight to jack Fulton and tricky dickie?

I can't wait for the game tomorrow, Cas away by far my favourite away day. Always cracking atmosphere, bumper attendances and even though the games are not always the most skilful, they nearly always are blood and thunder affairs.

One thing that is disappointing is the rivalry is a bit nastier now than it used to be, I used to sit in the Tigers Bar with some mates in my Wakey top after every game there for years, but have felt increasingly uncomfortable the last 3 seasons or so, and that's a shame.

Sorry but that is so wrong and could apply to any games.

I'm with TRB on this one, why do people talk the club and the game down.

The skill levels on display between top and bottom over a season are marginal. Sometimes Leeds or Saints fire and sometimes they don't - Ditto Salford or Widnes. One of the biggest myth in sport is that top teams playing each other give you the best games, yet in my experience it's nothing like. The CCup or FA Cup are often dull affairs as are much trumpeted league clashes. Yet sometimes you can watch a so called low key game and it's the best game of the season. The only difference is top teams turn it on and win more often and hence win titles. In the past ten years I have seen Cas and especially Wakefield play each other in games of intensity and skill the equal of any other. All your doing is applying a weird kind of inverted snobbery and pandering to elitism.

I remember a reporter telling Obst after the million pound game that it was lacking skill etc. Obst got really annoyed and told the twerp that when the players future and the clubs future is on the line you don't just throw the ball around. He said it was a very skillful game (and I agree) because keeping it tight and holding the line is the hardest skill of all - I'd personally love to see how well some of the star studded teams would have played in our position, I reckon some big names and big mouth would be found wanting.

While ever Tim Smith is playing for us, every game we are going to see extremly high calibre rugby league, whether it for the full 80 or parts of the game. Some of the passes i have seen him do really makes it a privilege to have witnessed such a fine player in the red white and blue.

Cas v Fev in the CC springs to mind - as a neutral, one of the most enjoyable games of the season; Fev v Wigan wasn't a bad sequel either.

I think there is something in the original point though - hard-fought, tight games where both teams aim to keep possession and turn the ball over in a controlled way can tend to look 'safer' - to the casual observer, I guess that can appear less exciting. To the RL purist however, games like that can be a joy to watch.

All I'm hoping for tonight is a game that sees both sets of players want the win as much as the fans do; if it's anything like as entertaining as Leeds v Bradford last night, that'll do me.

probably so yes