JJ came from Leeds to Wakefield academy I've no idea why but he showed lots of potential as a kid at Hunslet Parkside and then Oulton Raiders, stocky solid shorter type of player that was difficult to handle, shame he didn't make at Wakey

Jack Teanby and Ben Cockayne at York.

Will Oakes I believe is at York as well.

I always thought Danny had a good chance of making it. He's a teacher now as well as P/T RL player so has done well for himself.

Always remember Frances Meli breaking the line down at Belle Vue in a game we won by 1 point, thought for sure he was gone and we’d lost but out of nowhere Danny made the tackle; was outstanding!

He may well of done but the major reason was that I don't think Agar rated him enough to up the offer Agars loss imh but that's how it goes. It's worth remembering that Agar tried to play Wallshaw as a prop and virtually destroyed him as a player, terrible days.

Yep, Walshaw was another one that showed all the potential to be a good SL player but as you say was ruined by Agar limiting his opportunity in the first team and playing him out of position.



Agar did strangely seem to have an obsession with Kyle Trout, giving him chance after chance in the second row when his performances were below par, then awarded him with a long term deal which was apparently way above his worth.



Listening to an Isaac John interview recently really shows Agar in not a very good light, if the face fits and all that it seemed.

There is another side to the Isaac John story. Agar wasn't to blame there. The player didn't have the right attitude to be even an average player. His talent far exceeded that attitude unfortunately.



I liked Cowling and Walshaw but it's not like others were snapping our hands off.

Cowling was financial I guess. Walshaw was in a tough position unfortunately.

Usually I tend to go with the coach and the club over players especially overseas players. However in this case no, if anyone didn't didn't 'have the right attitude to be even an average coach' it's Agar, his attitude far exceeded his abilities as had been proved before and since.



He was at least to blame for all three, he was a poor coach who hit lucky for one season.

John although I don't like to admit it, did have a bad attitude though. Seemed to hit some form after Wakefield and picked up some first grade NRL experience along with an international call up but it didn't last long and he ended up calling it a day to pursue YKTR (his clothing brand that he runs with James Segeyaro and Corey Norman).

I'm no big Agar fan though I don't treat him like the devil some do but development is more about the individual.

By all means say another coach might have done better but he didn't exactly do them harm.

They all had chances in the first team.

In John's case he didn't take it seriously.

I'll accept John to a degree but Cowling and Wallshaw never got a serious chance. Wallshaw in particualr played well when used as a centre to which he was rewarded by being shunted into a pack where he wasn't even needed. Yet as someone else noted he had an obsession with Trout as player nobody else had rated before or since. Sorry but I think he did a great deal of damage.