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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I don't think some are getting the point though. The situation we are in is not due to the administrators, yet they are getting blamed for doing their job.

If only more had seen the BBC documentary on the long administration Hull KR were in, they may understand that tough decisions have to be made to keep the company trading.'"


I agree, but Roverswall doesnt need to keep drumming the point home, it isnt helping an already depressing forum!!

Anyway you can keep reminding people, its not quite as annoying! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Wildthing "I agree, but Roverswall doesnt need to keep drumming the point home, it isnt helping an already depressing forum!!

Anyway you can keep reminding people, its not quite as annoying!
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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I don't think some are getting the point though. The situation we are in is not due to the administrators, yet they are getting blamed for doing their job.

If only more had seen the BBC documentary on the long administration Hull KR were in, they may understand that tough decisions have to be made to keep the company trading.'"


I can understand the need to sell in case of an extended administration process, but wholesale pillage when an agreement to sell is in place is not required, the sale with assets intact should the main priority - concentrate on the blockage in the system - RFL.
The Crusaders may have had collateral in the ground but this does not pay any bills in the administration period.
And Roverswall - blaming anyone but WTWC ?? is not what is going on, not one person would argue the fact that the previous administration caused all this, the continuation is at the hands of the Administrators and the RFL

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On last years form, we won't miss Ferguson. Obst is different, but once Smith arrives and BJ and Davey are available, I am not sure it will be a problem.

I'll be more disappointed if we lost some of the younger players, like Murphy and Gledhill.

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Quote: Roverswall "The majority of you wanted administration.
This is what happens and before anyone mentions it the diffrence between you and Crusaders is that they had the ground as collateral you dont have that from what I can tell.
Some people warned you but it was just laughed off.
You cannot now complain because it doesn't suit you.'"

Nobody wanted it, there was absolutely no alternative.

My take on is that we are losing some of the better players but as long as it keeps the club a going concern in the interim it’s a price worth paying. As long as these players are replaced by loans or players out of favour on one year deals when the new board are in place then we can look forward not back.

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can't blame the administrators. They are just doing there job. It sucks that we are losing players but there is nothing we can do about it icon_sad.gif

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Quote: Roverswall "Fair enough but it just annoys me as has just been said previously WE have been there and got the tee-shirt that was our own fault, It just seems some on here want to blame anyone but WTWC which isn't on.'"


Well if it annoys you, why not leave our forum and go back to your own. We can look after our own people, thank you.

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Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "It is not the fault of the administrator that money needs to be raised to keep the club afloat. They are trying to keep it alive to sell, not kill it. That's not how administraton works.'"


This all depends on the terms of the agreement with SO1873. If the Adminisdtrators have agreed in principal to sell to SO1873, they will have an agreement on what assets are included in that sale. If the administrator then sells some of those assets out from under SO1873 there may something going on that we are not (and TBH never will) be a party to.

It may also depend who the main creditor is. Usually an administrator is appointed by the main creditor (usually a Bank, but not always). We know that HMRC are owed 300,000 or so, and I can see no mention of a bank being owed anything (but we don't know). The other main creditor will Ted. Make of that what you will.

(Just adding my support here, I am a Cas fan, but TBH I am disgusted at what is going with the club - best of luck, I hope the club comes out of this okay).

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can you remember how many player did O'Hara and co have to sell when crusaders went into administration? none, So why is it we have to lose 2 of our best players another conspirisy from the rfl just to get us in the championship or in to oblivion

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Crusaders had to sell Hauraki. I wouldn't have said that Ferguson would be classed as one of our best players - he is ok, but not in the same class as Morrison or Murphy.

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Quote: jazzman "This all depends on the terms of the agreement with SO1873. If the Adminisdtrators have agreed in principal to sell to SO1873, they will have an agreement on what assets are included in that sale. If the administrator then sells some of those assets out from under SO1873 there may something going on that we are not (and TBH never will) be a party to.

It may also depend who the main creditor is. Usually an administrator is appointed by the main creditor (usually a Bank, but not always). We know that HMRC are owed 300,000 or so, and I can see no mention of a bank being owed anything (but we don't know). The other main creditor will Ted. Make of that what you will.

(Just adding my support here, I am a Cas fan, but TBH I am disgusted at what is going with the club - best of luck, I hope the club comes out of this okay).'"

icon_thumb.gif icon_thumb.gif ...cheers pal.

At times like this, surely the clubs should stick together and help each other out....not act like vultures and pick over the bones of what's left from a club in dire straits. icon_evil.gif icon_evil.gif icon_evil.gif

Hull and Huddersfield...you ought to be ashamed of yourselves....talk about kicking a man when he's down icon_ass.gif icon_ass.gif icon_ass.gif icon_ass.gif

What exactly have the RFL done to help, other than spout the usual BS, about moral support ???
Do they want to see us go to the wall ???

I accept that Ted was probably about as popular as a "fart in a space suit" at Redhall, but he has gone now, so surely they should be stepping in to protect what's left of one of the founder clubs, or do they want us to die quickly so that they can then admit Warsaw Wildcats to superleague ??

Why not have a period of one month, for clubs which do go into administration, to be sold off, whereby any other RFL affiliated clubs cannot come in and steal any of their players ??
If the club isn't sold in that time, then it's open season, and players are up for grabs to the highest bidder. That will give an opportunity for new owners to sort out the purchase of the club, and still have a team able to compete at the end of it all !!!!!!

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Can't blame O'Haras, they are just doing their job.

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Quote: FIL "Hull and Huddersfield...you ought to be ashamed of yourselves....talk about kicking a man when he's down If that is true was you so vocal them?

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Is this the same Hull and Hudds, who when they were in financial difficulties, were given a team of players and a reputed £1m?

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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club. Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you. "Rugby League is a simple game played by simple people. Rugby Union is a complex game played by wankers." L.Daley 2005:



Quote: PHe "Is this the same Hull and Hudds, who when they were in financial difficulties, were given a team of players and a reputed £1m?'"


It is...it is also the Same Hull team who made something of our "2nd" chance.......profits for the 6th yr in a row.

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