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Quote: lampyboy "MC said we are not a selling club now, well that's perfectly true we just release a local young player who never let the club down and replaced him with an older version.

Not only that we then have to loan a full back adding more expense, Great bit of business.'"


Do you know how much Gaskell is paid?
Do you know how much the loan of Escare is costing Wakefield?
Do you know that those 2 figures added together are greater than the figure it would have cost us to retain Hampshire?

I suspect the answer on all 3 counts is NO YOU DON'T, so how do you know it's bad business???

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The reason why the inability to sign Rocky is so frustrating, gutting, disappointing is that he is a very rare commodity in that he is a naturally gifted supremely talented Rugby League player. The game at all levels if full of tough, brave, fit players who will run at brick walls all day and attempt to tackle everything that moves, I am in awe of these lads and full of admiration for them, my favourite players, Nigel Bell, John Burke, Hendo, Trevor Skerett, Duncan McGilvary all had these attributes in bucket loads. Lets be fair all clubs have these types of players and all teams need them but they are a comparatively common commodity. You will remember that in the old days there was a saying about just calling down the pit and getting a prop forward etc. Real star quality is rare, players with guile, players who can break down a defence with speed, footwork, slight of hand, skill rather than brute force, these players are the difference in making a good side great, a mid table side a top 4 team, and guiding a team fighting relegation to safety. From a very early age in local junior rugby any good judge could see that Rocky was special, and if you just watch his highlights for us you can easily see that he just a natural, look at the way he reads a break and is always in the right place - just like Shaun Edwards, look at the way he creates openings from nothing, add to that his brilliant defence. These players are rare and very hard for us to get our hands on as the ones with these talents are picked off by the big clubs as juniors. When we get a specially talented player it is also very difficult for us to keep hold of them, Nigel Wright, Toppo, McShane, Soloamoana, Brough all left either because we needed the transfer fee or were tapped up. These players were all match winners. Rocky is a match winner, he is class, he is a special talent and we should have kept him as the likes of him do not come around often for the likes of us. To make matters utterly unbearable we now have to watch him shine is a Cas shirt. Any good judge knows that we have made an error and this nonsense about supporting the team rather the player is silly talk.

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For me Rocky covered a few positions for me he never mastered one and made it his own. Not necessarily his fault but he was a squad player. His time came to go whether the club did or didn't offer him a deal is irrelevant. Good luck to him at Cas he moves on we move on

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Quote: lampyboy "MC said we are not a selling club now, well that's perfectly true we just release a local young player who never let the club down and replaced him with an older version.

Not only that we then have to loan a full-back adding more expense, Great bit of business.'"


The same local lad who wouldn't join his local teams Academy, oh brilliant piece of hypocrisy there.

What exactly do you know about running an RL team? How unbelievably arrogant to think you know more than a guy who's been doing it for 8 years and a coach who's been at the heart of the British game for 20 years. Opinions are one thing but to make the derisory statement that it was a 'Great bit of business', without a shred of knowledge as to what actually transpired can't go unchallenged.

Trinity should do an open day where all the know it alls on here get to run the club for a week, then they would see just how tough it is and how difficult decisions have to be made. The problem is the club wouldn't last more than a week under their guidance so it will have to be strictly first-come only one served affair.

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Quote: bellycouldtackle "The reason why the inability to sign Rocky is so frustrating, gutting, disappointing is that he is a very rare commodity in that he is a naturally gifted supremely talented Rugby League player. The game at all levels if full of tough, brave, fit players who will run at brick walls all day and attempt to tackle everything that moves, I am in awe of these lads and full of admiration for them, my favourite players, Nigel Bell, John Burke, Hendo, Trevor Skerett, Duncan McGilvary all had these attributes in bucket loads. Lets be fair all clubs have these types of players and all teams need them but they are a comparatively common commodity. You will remember that in the old days there was a saying about just calling down the pit and getting a prop forward etc. Real star quality is rare, players with guile, players who can break down a defence with speed, footwork, slight of hand, skill rather than brute force, these players are the difference in making a good side great, a mid table side a top 4 team, and guiding a team fighting relegation to safety. From a very early age in local junior rugby any good judge could see that Rocky was special, and if you just watch his highlights for us you can easily see that he just a natural, look at the way he reads a break and is always in the right place - just like Shaun Edwards, look at the way he creates openings from nothing, add to that his brilliant defence. These players are rare and very hard for us to get our hands on as the ones with these talents are picked off by the big clubs as juniors. When we get a specially talented player it is also very difficult for us to keep hold of them, Nigel Wright, Toppo, McShane, Soloamoana, Brough all left either because we needed the transfer fee or were tapped up. These players were all match winners. Rocky is a match winner, he is class, he is a special talent and we should have kept him as the likes of him do not come around often for the likes of us. To make matters utterly unbearable we now have to watch him shine is a Cas shirt. Any good judge knows that we have made an error and this nonsense about supporting the team rather the player is silly talk.'"


An opinion held by you and about five other people on the planet, whilst the sane think somewhat differently icon_biggrin.gif

Seriously though this is getting ridiculous for a player who's never ever matched the hype. Tragic.

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Not being sycophantic , as often disagree with you Vasty, but we'll said .
I am sick and tired of those who think they could run the club.
Also wish people would leave the 'Hampshire issue'..The lad is a fair player, but not the talent that some make out.
He is gone .
Hope he does well.

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Quote: Georgieboy "Not being sycophantic , as often disagree with you Vasty, but we'll said .
I am sick and tired of those who think they could run the club.
Also wish people would leave the 'Hampshire issue'..The lad is a fair player, but not the talent that some make out.
He is gone .
Hope he does well.'"


Tread carefully, the rule on here for some is that if you agree with me, even only once, then you are me. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "What can I say but I bow to your all encompassing knowledge. I am just not worthy to be on the same forum as you, those years in the HGV were not all wasted.
You are correct always time for a sarcastic comment especially when it involves you.'"


congratulations on finding a new way of making yourself look a dick, what trade your going to ridicule next the postman, dustman or the nurse the cleans the backsides of the critically ill icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Georgieboy "Not being sycophantic , as often disagree with you Vasty, but we'll said .
I am sick and tired of those who think they could run the club.
Also wish people would leave the 'Hampshire issue'..The lad is a fair player, but not the talent that some make out.
He is gone .
Hope he does well.'"

Morning Vasty.




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Morning, whooops icon_cool.gif

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For what it’s worth Hampshire is not a fullback
Never was and never will be
He is a number 6 and old fashioned stand off
I agree he never quite lived up to his potential
But then again he was never given a long run in the side
I personally think he is a better stand off than Miller
Only time will tell now if he finally delivers that potential given Castlefords injury list he may finally get that extended run at number 6

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Quote: GET EM ON SIDE REF "For what it’s worth Hampshire is not a fullback
Never was and never will be
He is a number 6 and old fashioned stand off
I agree he never quite lived up to his potential
But then again he was never given a long run in the side
I personally think he is a better stand off than Miller
Only time will tell now if he finally delivers that potential given Castlefords injury list he may finally get that extended run at number 6'"


He played 86 games for the club, how many do you need?

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Quote: snowie "congratulations on finding a new way of making yourself look a dick, what trade your going to ridicule next the postman, dustman or the nurse the cleans the backsides of the critically ill
It’s not the trade but the man, I have nothing against them just this one HGV driver. I suppose all industries have their Chissitt’s so please don’t confuse my post relates to anything other than him.

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Quote: PopTart "Apparently he is fit. Depends whether we play Escare on the wing and put Kay back to hooker.'"


It would appear that he is still not fit because not in the squad for this week. I think your source is not as reliable as that of others.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "It would appear that he is still not fit because not in the squad for this week. I think your source is not as reliable as that of others.'"


Why does that mean he's not fit exactly? Lots of fit players are not in the squad so it doesn't in any way appear as such..

Seriously who would you kick out?

Miller and Lino fit with Walker offering competition in the backs, Gaskell's main position. FB is the only possible opening but Escare played well, why drop him, might as well save Gaskell till next week when we might need him far more. Just a thought.

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