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| Im guessing that to take over the club as an individual the sum would be more than 500k. If you had that amount to spend (i refuse to use the word invest in this context) and you were inclined to spend it on Wakefield why do it now and pay a premium when there is a chance within the next 24 months of picking the club up in NL1 with a realistic proposition of a new stadium on the way and the opportunity to rebuild the club without the artificial and arbitrary pressures brought about by a phoney licencing process.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Even though ownership would change hands, contracts of employment would remain, and so unless you want to see your £1,000 spent on redundancy/unfair or constructive dismissal, plus lawyer fees, I imagine most would remain. You can't just step in and "get rid of the deadwood", as they have employment rights.'"
Yes but some of it resides on the BOD, does the statement mean JK will resign as coach as well? That would be an added bonus.
With regards those in other jobs, I agree you couldn't just get rid of them, but I doubt they know what an annual appraisal is, proper structures in place would measure performance against targets and allow for dismissal of those not producing the necessary level of performance
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| £500k would enable you to buy the club outright
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Even though ownership would change hands, contracts of employment would remain, and so unless you want to see your £1,000 spent on redundancy/unfair or constructive dismissal, plus lawyer fees, I imagine most would remain. You can't just step in and "get rid of the deadwood", as they have employment rights.'"
Thats correct, Tupe rights are invoked along with all liabilities there in (any historic claims, any liabilities under redundancy, terms of previous service, any ongoing litigation,and a lot more)
[uPeople need to be very very careful and legal advice must be taken with a lawyer who deals with company law[/u
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Even though ownership would change hands, contracts of employment would remain, and so unless you want to see your £1,000 spent on redundancy/unfair or constructive dismissal, plus lawyer fees, I imagine most would remain. You can't just step in and "get rid of the deadwood", as they have employment rights.'"
I'm not sure that there are many you would want rid of (Mopsy apart) most do a good job, the likes of Davide Longo, Jimme Elston, Sarah Robinson, the girls in the shop, Francis Stephenson, Steve Dutton etc..
there may be family mambers who don't want to stay on afterwards but if they did then you have to take into account their performance in any given role, they may be (like it or not) the best person for the job.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"Yes but some of it resides on the BOD, does the statement mean JK will resign as coach as well? That would be an added bonus.
With regards those in other jobs, I agree you couldn't just get rid of them, but I doubt they know what an annual appraisal is, proper structures in place would measure performance against targets and allow for dismissal of those not producing the necessary level of performance'"
kear is on the bod, there is no end to the torture, more chance of a brucie bonus
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"£500k would enable you to buy the club outright'"
Could we then just sell off the playing squad to recoup our cash.
Sorry, I'll amend... can we just sell off the playing squad to recoup about 8% of our cash ?
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| Quote ="chapster"never one to turn down an opening!
id love to get to see the books though!!!!'" I dont give a dam about the books i am a wakey fan i put my money where my mouth is tomorrow £1000 and a bit more if nessacery and i do not want to pick and chose who runs the club and as far as ted is concerned i would say he has put more in to trin than any of them have or will ever do and who ever gets us out of this mess i would be grateful to help.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I'm not sure that there are many you would want rid of (Mopsy apart) most do a good job, the likes of Davide Longo, Jimme Elston, Sarah Robinson, the girls in the shop, Francis Stephenson, Steve Dutton etc..
there may be family mambers who don't want to stay on afterwards but if they did then you have to take into account their performance in any given role, they may be (like it or not) the best person for the job.'"
clear the lot and get the best candidates in. all these are part of this shambles, steves the kitman so why him. the rest are on the bod
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| Quote ="The Clan"Jimme Elston'"
Apologies but he wouldnt be on my good job list. Rugby player who put on a suit and tie and started talking b*llocks off a cue card... similar to Steve Ferres.
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| Quote ="MR BROWN"I dont give a dam about the books i am a wakey fan i put my money where my mouth is tomorrow £1000 and a bit more if nessacery and i do not want to pick and chose who runs the club and as far as ted is concerned i would say he has put more in to trin than any of them have or will ever do and who ever gets us out of this mess i would be grateful to help.'"
your back then, why dont you buy the club seriously.
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| Quote ="The Clan"I'm not sure that there are many you would want rid of (Mopsy apart) most do a good job, the likes of Davide Longo, Jimme Elston, Sarah Robinson, the girls in the shop, Francis Stephenson, Steve Dutton etc..
there may be family mambers who don't want to stay on afterwards but if they did then you have to take into account their performance in any given role, they may be (like it or not) the best person for the job.'"
sorry didnt mean my original post on this point to become fodder for the cull brigade.
the club does however need a new finance structure and a more proactive business manager, thats obvious otherwise we would not be here now in the position we are in.
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| Quote ="Roonaldo6"Apologies but he wouldnt be on my good job list. Rugby player who put on a suit and tie and started talking b*llocks off a cue card... similar to Steve Ferres.'"
PMSL BRILLIANT
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| 0.8% more like! Paul Johnson looks a good signing on Sundays performance though could have unearthed a gem there, think him Korki and King are really going to have to earn their money this year, looks like it'll just be one prop on the bench! Quote ="Roonaldo6"Quote ="Uptoncat"£500k would enable you to buy the club outright'"
Could we then just sell off the playing squad to recoup our cash.
Sorry, I'll amend... can we just sell off the playing squad to recoup about 8% of our cash ?'"
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"0.8% more like! Paul Johnson looks a good signing on Sundays performance though could have unearthed a gem there, think him Korki and King are really going to have to earn their money this year, looks like it'll just be one prop on the bench!'"
1 prop 2 hookers and a full back!
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| If the money is needed by the end of the month - when and where are the club going to advertise the offer?
Every day that goes by from now is a day less to raise the necessary funds.
Oh and can anyone "in the know" answer my question re who we owe the money to and why they want it back by the end of the month?
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| Quote ="MR BROWN"I dont give a dam about the books i am a wakey fan i put my money where my mouth is tomorrow £1000 and a bit more if nessacery and i do not want to pick and chose who runs the club and as far as ted is concerned i would say he has put more in to trin than any of them have or will ever do and who ever gets us out of this mess i would be grateful to help.'"
look mate, i value your opinions and loyalty but dont ever think you have the nerve to question mine, i have done home and away every bloody week for 20 years and never ever thought we would get to this shambles, and yes in some areas i think i could and would do better.
not giving a damn about the books is beyond stupidity and maybe you, more than some others should be asking questions, i have no vested interest in any financial way if the club survives or falls this year, you i believe may do!
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| Obviously I dont know the full ins and outs of this give a grand deal the club are trying to get going, I can only go on what I have read on here but it does seem a very poor deal for the people who pay up in my eyes.
The board have said that 2 parties were very interested but once they had given the books a very good inspection they thought better of it. But now they are coming to the fans as what looks to be a last resort and more or less saying if you dont stump up now for the team you love it could be down to you when the team is no more. Not only do they want your money with what will probbably be no return at all but if you asked to look at the books before putting in your hard earned what do you think the answer would be?.
And on one final point how much of a say do you think your grand would get you, I dare say that if this get rich quick scheme does come off and your current board does step down its replacment has already been selected from current share holders.
Please dont take this post as a cas fan trolling, I just think your board wants to get out now before the brown stuff really hits the fan in a few months time and they see the fans as an easy target for their great escape.
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| Quote ="chapster"look mate, i value your opinions and loyalty but dont ever think you have the nerve to question mine, i have done home and away every bloody week for 20 years and never ever thought we would get to this shambles, and yes in some areas i think i could and would do better.
not giving a damn about the books is beyond stupidity and maybe you, more than some others should be asking questions, i have no vested interest in any financial way if the club survives or falls this year, you i believe may do!'"
And after you've read and studied the books you'd still come to the same conclusion - is WTRLFC worth £1k to me, and can I afford it? If you can't afford it, then it's a dead question, if you can, and you value the game of RL in Wakey, then do you value it enough to part with £1k - spread over 3 years - to keep the name of Wakefield Trinity alive in Wakey. It's not a business decision, if it is then you probably wouldn't do it, it's an emotional / supportive one.
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| Quote ="tigerman1"Obviously I dont know the full ins and outs of this give a grand deal the club are trying to get going, I can only go on what I have read on here but it does seem a very poor deal for the people who pay up in my eyes.
The board have said that 2 parties were very interested but once they had given the books a very good inspection they thought better of it. But now they are coming to the fans as what looks to be a last resort and more or less saying if you dont stump up now for the team you love it could be down to you when the team is no more. Not only do they want your money with what will probbably be no return at all but if you asked to look at the books before putting in your hard earned what do you think the answer would be?.
And on one final point how much of a say do you think your grand would get you, I dare say that if this get rich quick scheme does come off and your current board does step down its replacment has already been selected from current share holders.
Please dont take this post as a cas fan trolling, I just think your board wants to get out now before the brown stuff really hits the fan in a few months time and they see the fans as an easy target for their great escape.'"
Maybe we should all get a brick for the £1000 would that be a better deal.
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| Quote ="TRB"And after you've read and studied the books you'd still come to the same conclusion - is WTRLFC worth £1k to me, and can I afford it? If you can't afford it, then it's a dead question, if you can, and you value the game of RL in Wakey, then do you value it enough to part with £1k - spread over 3 years - to keep the name of Wakefield Trinity alive in Wakey. It's not a business decision, if it is then you probably wouldn't do it, it's an emotional / supportive one.'"
Mr Motivator....
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| Quote ="The Clan"Maybe we should all get a brick for the £1000 would that be a better deal.'"
Well theoretically a brick is better than nothing.
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| Quote ="TRB"And after you've read and studied the books you'd still come to the same conclusion - is WTRLFC worth £1k to me, and can I afford it? If you can't afford it, then it's a dead question, if you can, and you value the game of RL in Wakey, then do you value it enough to part with £1k - spread over 3 years - to keep the name of Wakefield Trinity alive in Wakey. It's not a business decision, if it is then you probably wouldn't do it, it's an emotional / supportive one.'"
youve praised lord ted on here millions of times let him sort it out,whats the cash for.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Maybe we should all get a brick for the £1000 would that be a better deal.'"
Like i said mate not a trolling post, but if you did just buy a brick the board would not be saying to you that they had stuffed up and could go no further so would you like to have a go instead. I just think there is much more to all this than is being said and one thing is why the big rush for the end of this month. Also what happens if the cash is not raised, will the club need to go into addministration ?.
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| Would it be possible to set up a standing order to pay monthly over 3 years?
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