If only I could believe a word of it. Never mind 90% of the rest of RL will think we were hoodwinking them, make it 100%. As I said about NM..when my bum is in a bucket seat I'll believe it. When I see those stands at All New BV, I'll believe it. WT promises and plans are like apple pie crusts I'm afraid

I can remember getting called a nutter when I said what if they build so much and tarmac the rest.

Does that mean York Court cant continue with the other development at NM now as the stadium was part of the deal? Xxx

No worries.

I am the spokesman for SWAG and am on the Stadium Trust headed by Sir Rodney.

There has been plenty on here, if you wanted it, but it is difficult to report every move as often the situation is delicate and requires tight lips - that can be more frustrating for us than you can imagine!

I won't blame anyone for losing faith, but we will not, as we still have a job to do!

I thought there was a water tight agreement in place which said the development could not be built without the stadium.

There we go again, no one is blaming IA or TRB, Is this some kind of attempt to deflect from the real issue!

We were supposed to be opening the new stadium in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016

Lots of platitudes were given about not to worry, things are progressing, we've had a meeting, there's some exciting stuff going on behind the scenes etc

Now it looks like we're getting shafted by all and sundry again and again we get platitudes!
It's time to bend Colin Mackey over the desk and force him to front up on his promises!

Looks like it may be as water tight as the Titanic was.

So did i

Bullseye !!!!

Thanks for your reply. The way the world works, I appreciate the meaning of the tight lipped comment. However, this should just not be like this. You would have to see how this might look to the rest of the world and people outside the circle of trust like me? Whataver has been said at planning meetings and published has been convoluted, confusing and looking suspiciously like it it is intended to stall and eventually stop somthing from happening, no matter how much work you and others have put in. The machinations are bewildering and the process whiffy. Maybe I'm wrong but the announcement of somthing you saw coming 3 1/2 years ago generally tends to re-enforce a belief. I wish you well in your job. I hope your efforts come to fruition. I hope my suspicions are wrong. I want as much as the next fan to have a Trinity ground, club and team to be proud of and to be sat cheering us on in, but today is another day of cringing embarrassment for an already humiliated club

What I don't get about the agreement to allow YCP to build and let a massive amount of warehousing space before even considering building the stadium is this.

At the time, TIME was very much an issue so why, when YCP who were in a weak position and were pleading for the opportunity to build warehousing first, didn't someone argue for the inclusion of a time scale clause in the contract.

For example:
York Court Properties will commence work on the Community Stadium YCP when they have built and occupied 60,000m2 of warehousing or 2yrs from the Secretary of States decision have elapsed, whichever happens first.

Again, the absence of such a time scale clause smacks of there never being any intention to build a stadium.

my first question would be who has gained most financially over the lupset and Newmarket fiascos

From a purely personal point of view I'm pleased if BV is to be developed, I was never convinced that NM would attract the crowds being so far out of the city.
My pleasure is dulled however because once again we will be the laughing stock of RL.
I feel sorry for all the guys who have/are putting so much effort into this and cannot help but think not all parties acted with sincerity.
I'm just too bored to ask about planning, design, timescale etc.
Never dull being a Trinity fan eh?

Might have been mentioned already. But can't see how we can upgrade belle view, as in is there enough surround space to fit in a 'proper' stand anywhere? parking will still be an issue. Can't see where the funds are gonna come from either.

Looks to me like we'll just have to carry on chasing that dragon that is a nice shiny new stadium