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| Quote ="kinleycat"TBH i detest them all.
Rugby is such a beautifully simple game to watch, i don't need a science lesson from Wells or Clarke or boring to death by Eddie and Stevo with their inane ramblings.
Nor now do i need to see the the video refs on TV making their decisions.
More is not always better...well not in my world anyway.'"
I agree with what your saying, completely. Although you have to analyse the game durng half time, I think Jon Wells makes it really simple and the exact opposite of a science lesson.
Consider that you've got Stevo saynig the same cliche things at completely random times. Classics such as "they need to utilize the dummy runners" or talking about "the second phase".......even he doesn't know what he means by this. As well as the usual, when a penalty is conceded "the coach will be absolutely furious!"
.....Jon Wells has the analyst job and tells it as it is - This try came from this (few circles of a player etc etc) this is what they spotted, this is what they executed, this is how it works.
He puts it all into 2 minutes and I think that's the best we've got!
The video ref thing is just awful - it's just cause Ganson wants to be on the telly and can't bare to be out of the spotlight. Culminating in the drab voice of Smithy saying "and the decision is..... it's a try.... there was nowt wrong... the ball was grounded.
Can you imagine a football match where someone scores, and the 4th official comes on in a booming drab voice saying "and the referee has awarded a goal."
Two words. Andrew Vos.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"TBH i detest them all.
Rugby is such a beautifully simple game to watch, i don't need a science lesson from Wells or Clarke or boring to death by Eddie and Stevo with their inane ramblings.
Nor now do i need to see the the video refs on TV making their decisions.
More is not always better...well not in my world anyway.'"
I miss Clarkeys swingometer! ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I agree with what your saying, completely. Although you have to analyse the game durng half time, I think Jon Wells makes it really simple and the exact opposite of a science lesson.
Consider that you've got Stevo saynig the same cliche things at completely random times. Classics such as "they need to utilize the dummy runners" or talking about "the second phase".......even he doesn't know what he means by this. As well as the usual, when a penalty is conceded "the coach will be absolutely furious!"
.....Jon Wells has the analyst job and tells it as it is - This try came from this (few circles of a player etc etc) this is what they spotted, this is what they executed, this is how it works.
He puts it all into 2 minutes and I think that's the best we've got!
The video ref thing is just awful - it's just cause Ganson wants to be on the telly and can't bare to be out of the spotlight. Culminating in the drab voice of Smithy saying "and the decision is..... it's a try.... there was nowt wrong... the ball was grounded.
Can you imagine a football match where someone scores, and the 4th official comes on in a booming drab voice saying "and the referee has awarded a goal."
Two words. Andrew Vos.'"
I hate this the most, circle any number of players at any number of points in the game and you can spot something it is lowest common denominator stuff dressed up as analytical insight.
Its all an over complicated way of making our game and its players look cleverer than they are (look at Robbie Hunter Paul) and cleverer than they need to be. RL is a game for big hearts not Nobel Prize winners.
Two more words...utter codswallop!! (if codswallop is one word...if not - three words!!!)
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| Quote ="JINJER"I miss Clarkeys swingometer!
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You are a very great fool!! ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| I see you feel strongly!
If you can raise an alternative for the 15 minute half time break, please share ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif) I shall most definitely campaign with you comrade!
Until then I shall appreciate the half time recap as an interlude from the match commentary
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I see you feel strongly!
If you can raise an alternative for the 15 minute half time break, please share
I shall most definitely campaign with you comrade!
Until then I shall appreciate the half time recap as an interlude from the match commentary'"
The thing is its not just the 15 minute interval is it, its the hour before kick off too.
I don't mind a small amout of pre match info or recapping each half's highlights at half and full time, its the lab coat overkill that does my box in!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"You are a very great fool!!
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Yeah, think it's been mentioned before. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I see you feel strongly!
If you can raise an alternative for the 15 minute half time break, please share
I shall most definitely campaign with you comrade!
Until then I shall appreciate the half time recap as an interlude from the match commentary'"
Toilet break, stock up on the WKD's. ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
I think it's all cringeworthy, the build up, half time and full time round up, I switch on at 7.55pm and switch off as the final hooter goes.
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| I don't love it... I don't even like it! But Jon Wells is given guidelines of what to say etc... I think of the lot of them he does the best with what he has.
It hasn't escaped me that it needs totally rethinking
Like I say Kinley, you detest the pre-during-post match "analysis" but what else could we do durng those times?????? It's no different to any other sport really, so is it just nt presented to your liking?
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| I would have thought Fatnamara would have won this hands down....
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| I personally enjoy the more analytical match analysis. I also like Jon Wells.
I hate the Video Ref stuff and my pet hate this year is the use of the word "pouched" when referring to a player catching a kick. It has also now crept onto the radio coverage too.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I don't love it... I don't even like it! But Jon Wells is given guidelines of what to say etc... I think of the lot of them he does the best with what he has.
It hasn't escaped me that it needs totally rethinking
Like I say Kinley, you detest the pre-during-post match "analysis" but what else could we do durng those times?????? It's no different to any other sport really, so is it just nt presented to your liking?'"
I'm just grumpy, there's no pleasing me!! ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| well, you are a Wakefield fan ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Well, although this is a bit off topic, it's the only thing I can comment on in this thread.
I like Wells. I didn't think he was a bad player either until we got him but I like his analysis. He is fast and accurate in his summary. He and Carney make a good team.
I'd happily lose the video ref thing but they should stay.
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