You can't have it both ways FFF

If Elston brining Glover on board is in the past and not to be considered, why is he linked to Agar and his good or bad performance? Surely that's in the past too?

This thread is so fickle. Elston has done a awesome job the time he has had James has assembled a good team. Elston has put up with a lot of rubbish from our previous regime and hes kept the club ticking over. The improvements him and Glover have made are extroadinary. You people are unbelievable!

I think you have to let Richard have a season and a half before even considering where we are going.

Whats to lose? no relegation

i'm not sure that there has been much comment to the contrary. those that have been engaged in this debate have been discussing how long elston's reputation can remain intact if the results on the field do not improve. that's not a slight on elston.

andrew glover is here, it was his decision to come on board not james elston’s. so if things get rocky for andrew glover he can’t blame anyone but himself. we all hope that he’s with us for a long time. the change in the outlook and the attitude at the club has been for the better.

the decision to appoint agar and make a lot of the signings were made by james eslton no matter how it's dressed up. sure glover will have had final say, but since he had no rugby background i think we can safely assume that james james elston will be made to answer to glover if unfortunately things turn sour for agar. allied to this agar was appointed in the face of very vocal opposition by fans, certainly on this messageboard.

so it’s not a question of having it both ways the two situations are very different.

quite right.

If you think added pressure should come if we lose to Wire and Catalan then we are in trouble because we are likely to struggle in both of these games.
We should be judged, at the moment, on our performances against the likes of Cas, London, Widnes, Salford and perhaps KR, effectively the lower part of SL.
If we sneak a win against the top 8, then great, but i'm certainly not banking on it.
Hopefully next season we can push on and challenge for a top 8 spot, but I think this is unrealistic this season.
Pressure will only mount if we expect more than is reasonable and I think perhaps you might need to reign in your expectations ?

i'm not advocating that pressure should come, i'm merely suggesting that from some less patient quarters it's innevitable and that it's perfectly reasonable to speculate that andrew glover will get twitchy. throughout this thread i've been consistent, if and when the moaning starts, i wonder how this will reflect on mr elston.

personally i think if morale slumps in the squad then it's going to be a tough old season for us all. i hope that agar can keep this together, and that he is supported by andrew glover, james elston and other staff and that they live up to the matra: together we're stronger.

I agree, that after the previous board that people should question and critique aspects of the club, that in my opinion is fair. But there must also be a balance and realism to 'fans' expectations (which i think there is to be fair) and time especially with regard to Agar's appointment and a new squad. You've only to look at McDermott at Leeds for evidence of that!!

As for Elston, and this 'pressure', he's appointed the best candidate that applied for the role and they could get, he's assembled a pretty decent squad albeit with one or two area's to iron out and those two aspects are only a small segment of what a CEO's role involves. So there shouldn't be any pressure on him at all. Unless he isn't performing in other elements of his role?

If after a season Agar hasn't been able to mould together this squad then maybe the axe should fall. But as far as i can see, whether we like it or not the best candidate was appointed and has been given the right support to do the job. Success or failure is down to the individual and their support team and should be judged over a season not 5 games and i'm sure WTW fans will given him time just as with Kear

This

Spot on.

Were stuck with Agar for the season, might as well get behind him.

Were not stuck with Elston, shocking appointment, man has got to go (as Agar is here now).

You being serious?