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| I understand what you're saying KK but, I just wouldn't jeapordize the whole club on "assurances" from ANYONE, let alone a politician. It is completely irresponsible.
My whole point is that the policy of "assurances" and the like are no way to plan for the survival of a professional club.
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| It is so refreshing to see Wakefield fans denouncing these comments. I can only concur with what has been said already. Unnecessary and doesn't bring anything to the table.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"I understand what you're saying KK but, I just wouldn't jeapordize the whole club on "assurances" from ANYONE, let alone a politician. It is completely irresponsible.
My whole point is that the policy of "assurances" and the like are no way to plan for the survival of a professional club.'"
Even so the fact remains that if Trinity want to remain an SL club, BV is no longer an option, so in reality is no longer needed.
What isn't clear is where Trinity will play if they fail to win a license next year. Sport England will not allow the pitch to be dug up until an alternative is found so perhaps it will still be available for championship rugby.
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| What has ted said or done ? anyone got the link to where it is ?
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| Quote ="bigbadcat"What has ted said or done ? anyone got the link to where it is ?'"
No. Buy the paper or read the bile on Casforum.
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| Quote ="RDM" The meeting was always planned for Jan 4th, and it was always planned to be announced after the decision from Eric Pickles was known. What hadn't been expected was the way the decision went.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Quote ="bigbadcat"What has ted said or done ? anyone got the link to where it is ?'"
No. Buy the paper or read the bile on Casforum.'"
Not just the Casforum ![HAND eusa_hand.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_hand.gif)
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| Quote ="bigalf"Quote ="RebelRebel"Quote ="bigbadcat"What has ted said or done ? anyone got the link to where it is ?'"
No. Buy the paper or read the bile on Casforum.'"
Not just the Casforum
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Where else? Parliament?
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| Right I've been out all afternoon enjoying myself in north yorks at the winter wonder land in minus -8,so make it easy 1, what has he said 2, where has he said it ? 3, where may i read it ?.
I hope he hasn't said anything we are not in any position to have a ago at anyone given our current status !
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| Quote ="bigbadcat"Right I've been out all afternoon enjoying myself in north yorks at the winter wonder land in minus -8,so make it easy 1, what has he said 2, where has he said it ? 3, where may i read it ?.
I hope he hasn't said anything we are not in any position to have a ago at anyone given our current status !'"
Where can you read it? League Express
Where has he said it? Dunno, but wherever he was, he was talking to someone from League Express
What has he said? Nothing you haven't read on this forum for the last 3 years at least.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"
What has he said? Nothing you haven't read on this forum for the last 3 years at least.'"
Thats true. The problem is, things said on this forum have been by ill-informed fans. He is the Chairman of WTW.
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| Quote ="bigalf"Quote ="RebelRebel"
What has he said? Nothing you haven't read on this forum for the last 3 years at least.'"
Thats true. The problem is, things said on this forum have been by ill-informed fans. He is the Chairman of WTW.'"
Has he actually said anything that's incorrect, though? I mean, apart from the fact that we're miles ahead of you in getting a new stadium (which is purely opinion ateotd - the proof is in the delivery).
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"
Has he actually said anything that's incorrect, though? I mean, apart from the fact that we're miles ahead of you in getting a new stadium (which is purely opinion ateotd - the proof is in the delivery).'"
Quote "outline planning approval from Wakefield Council on 22 October was unanimous, and simply needed some additional input from the Highways Agency."'"
WTW have not got any form of planning approval and at best will not have for about 12 months or longer.
Quote "Castleford, for example, have to go back to the full planning committee to have their proposal approved”'"
So have WTW [uif[/u you manage to get outline approval.
Quote "Castleford haven’t been able to access those funds because they haven’t yet set up a Community Trust, and Council’s cannot give funds to limited companies”'"
Presumably we haven't needed the funds yet, but again, perhaps we waited until they were formally approved and also he should know that The Wakefield and District Community Trust is a limited company seeing as he is one of it's directors!!
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| So basically what I said, then. He hasn't said anything about Cas that isn't true.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"So basically what I said, then. He hasn't said anything about Cas that isn't true.'"
Where did you say that?
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| Quote ="bigalf"Quote ="RebelRebel"So basically what I said, then. He hasn't said anything about Cas that isn't true.'"
Where did you say that?'"
In the bit where I said
Quote ="RebelRebel"Has he actually said anything that's incorrect, though?'"
Or are you going to hang me for posing it as a question? I thought you might be smart enough to pick up on the intent. All you've done is added the "yeah, but he didn't say this" bits. Doesn't mean he's wrong.
Doesn't mean it's good to say either. You can look back in this thread to see where I've said that too (though I may have phrased it slightly differently... so beware).
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| I am happy that you accept that he was incorrect in the points I mentioned.
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| Quote ="bigalf"I am happy that you accept that he was incorrect in the points I mentioned.'"
Go on bigalf, "edit my post for accuracy", that's a winner. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Quote ="bigalf"I am happy that you accept that he was incorrect in the points I mentioned.'"
Go on bigalf, "edit my post for accuracy", that's a winner.
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I'm sure you could do a better job than me at that, so i'll leave it up to you ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"Quote ="RDM"What exactly is wrong with giving jobs to family members? As a business, WT is smaller than many other "family businesses" where management wouldn't be overly criticised for a bit of nepotism so why should this business be any different?'"
There is something wrong with buying a rugby club with a shareholding reputedly worth around 400K and putting family members in positions they may not deserve to hold in order to draw an income from the club. Over the years, the investment will have more than paid for itself. If the family members were the best people to have in those positions, then of course there's no argument.'"
Very well put sir.
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| Quote ="bigalf"I am happy that you accept that he was incorrect in the points I mentioned.'"
I am not going to get into the Ted discussion as I am not a supporter of either club.
However, the 'style' of your posts is growing ever more similar to another poster and this particular post heightened my suspicions even more...
Hmmm.... I wonder?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Quote ="bigalf"I am happy that you accept that he was incorrect in the points I mentioned.'"
I am not going to get into the Ted discussion as I am not a supporter of either club.
However, the 'style' of your posts is growing ever more similar to another poster and this particular post heightened my suspicions even more...
Hmmm.... I wonder?'"
Bit naughty that IA you sit on the fence with regards Ted, but then feel happy to make insinuations about another poster. And why would you not comment? the fact you do not support either club has not stopped you so far, and have you not already been down the road of putting 2 and 2 together with regards posters.
Seriously though IA if you want to put your investigation skills to good use, you could start by finding TRB, he has been barely visible since posting in reply to Townville tiger:
"I am not aware of the decision being imminent, in fact it doesn't fit at all with what I have been told, but the truth will come out in it's own good time."
I suggest another load of bull fed to him by Ted, I have said all along that SWAG are just being used by the club to keep the fans onside. I said this to TRB months ago. Take the Thornes park situation, I can tell your for a fact the EVERYONE involved new that timescale wise it was a non starter, My farther is a senior lecturer there and as the supposed move involved his Job he asked the principle and her reply was that she Was sick of People(Wakefield express, Swag, WTWC) making incorrect statements on the subject. The college planned to extend its Margaret street centre and move the Business and Management department there, the foot print for this would not be available till well into this franchise round and maybe not before the 2011 round, so it was never their intention to move from Thornes in the required time scale and All the parties concerned new this.
IMO the council helped Wakefield as their were no viable alternatives at the time they created the mirage that was the Thornes, revealing the desert just after the franchise was in the bag.
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| Quote ="rugbyball"Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Quote ="bigalf"I am happy that you accept that he was incorrect in the points I mentioned.'"
I am not going to get into the Ted discussion as I am not a supporter of either club.
However, the 'style' of your posts is growing ever more similar to another poster and this particular post heightened my suspicions even more...
Hmmm.... I wonder?'"
Bit naughty that IA you sit on the fence with regards Ted, but then feel happy to make insinuations about another poster. And why would you not comment? the fact you do not support either club has not stopped you so far, and have you not already been down the road of putting 2 and 2 together with regards posters. '"
Why is it naughty, I am not getting into the Castleford v Wakefield stuff, that is for their supporters to do or not do, if I did all I would get is, "what is it to do with you" posts! As for bigalf, I just think he might have an alias that is all, I am not trying to insinuate anything other than I have a suspicion! I don't think he is anyone formally connected with Castleford if that is what you mean? If you would like me to start on OT thread about this I will, it was just that post that made things click a little bit... I could be wrong of course, I have been before!
Quote ="rugbyball"Seriously though IA if you want to put your investigation skills to good use, you could start by finding TRB, he has been barely visible since posting in reply to Townville tiger:
"I am not aware of the decision being imminent, in fact it doesn't fit at all with what I have been told, but the truth will come out in it's own good time."
I suggest another load of bull fed to him by Ted, I have said all along that SWAG are just being used by the club to keep the fans onside. I said this to TRB months ago. Take the Thornes park situation, I can tell your for a fact the EVERYONE involved new that timescale wise it was a non starter, My farther is a senior lecturer there and as the supposed move involved his Job he asked the principle and her reply was that she Was sick of People(Wakefield express, Swag, WTWC) making incorrect statements on the subject. The college planned to extend its Margaret street centre and move the Business and Management department there, the foot print for this would not be available till well into this franchise round and maybe not before the 2011 round, so it was never their intention to move from Thornes in the required time scale and All the parties concerned new this.
IMO the council helped Wakefield as their were no viable alternatives at the time they created the mirage that was the Thornes, revealing the desert just after the franchise was in the bag.'"
Firstly, other than what he has said, what more do you want him to say? You and others accuse him of him being some sort of puppet (which he most certainly is not!) and have a go at him posting too much and then when he does not post, because there is not a great deal to say, you have a go at him again! He can't bloody win!
However, the one thing TRB is doing is working hard for the club he supports and loves and has the integrity to stand up, work hard to make things happen and be counted, everyone knows who he is, he does not hide behind a screen name or avatar, as don't I and many others... so what about you rugbyball? I have asked you this question before and you continue you to ignore it... so, who the hell are you and what is your reason for posting on here, what do you want to achieve, what is your mission statement? Everyone knows TRB's, everyone knows mine (despite what they might post on Cas Forum) so, the 'rugby' ball is in your half?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"
However, the one thing TRB is doing is working hard for the club he supports and loves and has the integrity to stand up, work hard to make things happen and be counted, everyone knows who he is, he does not hide behind a screen name or avatar, as don't I and many others... so what about you rugbyball? I have asked you this question before and you continue you to ignore it... so, who the hell are you and what is your reason for posting on here, what do you want to achieve, what is your mission statement? Everyone knows TRB's, everyone knows mine (despite what they might post on Cas Forum) so, the 'rugby' ball is in your half?'"
Who cares?
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| As my RLE is still to be delivered can anyone enlighten me on the question which was put to Ted which elicited the response ?
Having read the quotes from the guy form Probiz and seen his all-singing website and endorsements from accountants based mainly in the south,I was instictively suspicious,having been reminded of the sort of chaps who take over sports clubs and don't turn out as they at first seem.Has he ever stated he has been a Cas fan all his life or a season ticket holder ?
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