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| I’d personally Keep Pitts at stand off, bring Cozza in at 13 and the rest basically pick themselves. If Truey is back the game after then he slots back in.
If Max is back I’d bob Rourke to 6 and Max back to FB. I’d also be starting Cozza at 13, give Pitts a breather on the bench. I’d also try and rest Hood as well, he’s looked cooked the last 2 games. Not saying Cas are easy beats but if Hoy, Westerman and Cini our out for them potentially we have enough fire power to get the 2 points.
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| The Avenger:
Same as I’ve said before, if Max is fit, I’d play him at 6 alongside Lino until another halfback is available. Leave Rourke where he is, then spell Pitts with Cozza off the bench.
My thoughts too. Max is the 2nd best no 6 we have. Leave Rourke at FB Walmsley on the wing.
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| Trojan Horse:
I would still be looking to bring a half back in on Loan.
Someone like Sinfield, Farrimond or even Whitby who kicked us to death this week.
Jowitt would be back to 1 but I would really like to see Roarke on the wing and using his aerial ability to our advantage.
It’s most likely Jowitt will be at 6 and that will offer improved options but Jowitt just offers so much out the back.
Either way whatever we go with I want to see us win these next 3 games. Forwards really need to step up too. I thought that first half vs saints was the first time I have seen our forwards get dominated. It’s rare and I can’t see them not wanting to put that right.
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When we get a half back back and Jowitt ,would like to see Rourke given a run in the and put Scott on the bench .
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| Do not think our poor first half was down to the forwards ,more down to mistakes and giving penalties away resulting in very little ball in first half .Thought our Forwards got on top in the second half
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Do not think our poor first half was down to the forwards ,more down to mistakes and giving penalties away resulting in very little ball in first half .Thought our Forwards got on top in the second half Let’s call it like it is. There were two players mainly responsible for the errors and issues in our first half. Vagana and Lino. Vagana dropped 3/4 balls cold and Lino dropped one, ripped ball on 4th tackle for a 6 again and gave away a penalty or 2. They tidied up that second half but all those instances above led to us conceding field position and points.
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| I hardly think you can say he dropped them cold. Vagana dropped 2 balls he received as he hit the line. We adjusted how he got the ball but it was too late by then.
Yes he had a stinker of a first half with and without the ball but they weren't easy unforced errors.
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I hardly think you can say he dropped them cold. Vagana dropped 2 balls he received as he hit the line. We adjusted how he got the ball but it was too late by then.
Yes he had a stinker of a first half with and without the ball but they weren't easy unforced errors. There was one that went between his legs too I think with nobody close after we had spread the ball. He should have taken them all and usually he does but the facts are that the mistakes from him and Lino lead to points and put us on the back foot on numerous ocassions. Luckily they were sorted but we can’t be repeating those kind of mistakes again especially against Cas. We move on and I’m confident they will put it right. I can take losing to Saints away and it being relatively close in the end but I won’t see it as acceptable to lose vs Cas at home if we are truly building to be a top 6 team. The ruck was diabolical though. I can see why Powell keeps raising it after games. Players must be annoyed fighting to get up to play the ball quickly with players straddling round them and wrestling while the refs shouting get up and play the ball. What’s our players supposed to do? Phase through defenders on top of them.
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| Pat_Bateman:
We looked dead and buried at half time, with not a chance of scoring a point. Infact we looked like a Trinity side of years gone by. Awful completion and discipline and really poor game management and kicking game. We failed to build any pressure at all and gave away really soft tries, especially the drop out one. We made Sironen look like a prime Ali lauitiiti.
Second half as soon as Cozza came on we changed. Our intensity and attitude looked miles better and scored by far the best tries. At 75 minutes our intensity and line speed looked better than at 10 minutes with St’s looking knackered. Cozza needs to start for me next week, his attacking link up play and defence is really really impressive.
There were 2/3 incidents last night where surely a yellow card should have been shown. The Batchelor one was borderline but the Knowles one surely was. Also when Cozza put Atoni through it also looked like a shoulder to the head.
Good assessment PB.Cozza has defo stepped up and improved over time, good to see him going well. Not having a bash here, but I still think there is that mindset with refs re the "bigger teams" - seeming to get more favourable decisions still......
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| Agree completely with Cozza's performance, but for me that's a good reason to bring him off the bench again. For me, you don't need to start players just because they're playing well - sometimes they're most effective off the bench. Atoni is a case in point; he was very ordinary in his first spell at 13, and lacked the intensity in defence that Pitts always starts with. Atoni, however, is so destructive off the bench once the opposition has been softened up. Play to your squad's strengths, not just their form.
Pitts wasn't good at 6, but we also missed him at 13. There's a bit of talk above about Max not being a 6, but he genuinely is - played loads there as a youth, in our reserves, and much of last season there. He's a great organiser, good kicker, and his pass selection will be just as effective there as at full back. Rourke has never played there, not even amateur.
If Max is fit, Thursday's team picks itself: Rourke, Johnstone, Pratt, Scott or Hall, Walmsley, Jowitt, Lino, McMeeken, Hood, Uele, Vagana, Nikotemo, Pitts; Smith, Rodwell, Atoni, Cozza.
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| Trojan Horse:PopTart:
Players must be annoyed fighting to get up to play the ball quickly with players straddling round them and wrestling while the refs shouting get up and play the ball. What?s our players supposed to do? Phase through defenders on top of them.
It's like that in every game and every team does it. Players are coached to try and "control the ruck" which leads to players doing everything they can to slow down the opposition. Some teams like Wigan are masters at it and are really good at disrupting in all kinds of ways. The more effective you are the better chance you have of giving your defence time to get set. As a neutral when it comes to SL i'd like to see refs come down on it a lot more. The cynical play of just lying in or around the ruck in particular does my head in. Players need to be rolling away more.
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| Not sure why you've edited it that way Bullseye but I didn't say that Trojan did.
I'd appreciate you not making out they were my words
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| Bullseye:Trojan Horse:PopTart:
Players must be annoyed fighting to get up to play the ball quickly with players straddling round them and wrestling while the refs shouting get up and play the ball. What?s our players supposed to do? Phase through defenders on top of them.
It's like that in every game and every team does it. Players are coached to try and "control the ruck" which leads to players doing everything they can to slow down the opposition. Some teams like Wigan are masters at it and are really good at disrupting in all kinds of ways. The more effective you are the better chance you have of giving your defence time to get set. As a neutral when it comes to SL i'd like to see refs come down on it a lot more. The cynical play of just lying in or around the ruck in particular does my head in. Players need to be rolling away more. It certainly does need to be addressed. Too much messing about and it?s crept back into the game. Not sure why it?s quoted my words as poptarts but they?re my words and I?d appreciate you not making them out to be poptarts. Also, this site still has multiple issues. Quotes messing up and symbols in text. Hope they?re fixing all these errors up.
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