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| Quote: not again "from what i hear its brough who is been saying he is off to hudds and that chairman is buying him a bmw. if this is true, it doesnt sound like he wants to stay to me. wouldnt surprise me if its brough and his manager starting the rumours to bump his price up. its all a big game to some.'"
ATEOTD we have made Danny an offer which matches his initial request. In most cases it never gets to that stage, but there are occasions when it does - or even exceeds the original offer. In Danny's case the offer is there, it is what he asked for and, more importantly, it is at the limit of what we can afford for him / what we we think he is worth.
We are not there yet - but there will come a point when the offer has to be withdrawn and alternatives found. If that day arises then it will be due to Danny's desire to move on. There are of course plenty of smaller discussions within the bigger one, but again they will become exhausted at some stage.
Life, and the club, will go on!
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| exactly i just hope he keeps his mind on the job, i have a feeling he wants the club to sell him hence the contract rejection, and i worry he will be unhappy if he does'nt get what he wants. although he will still need to play well to get a ggod offer at end of his contract.
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| Quote: TRB "ATEOTD we have made Danny an offer which matches his initial request. In most cases it never gets to that stage, but there are occasions when it does - or even exceeds the original offer. In Danny's case the offer is there, it is what he asked for and, more importantly, it is at the limit of what we can afford for him / what we we think he is worth.
We are not there yet - but there will come a point when the offer has to be withdrawn and alternatives found. If that day arises then it will be due to Danny's desire to move on. There are of course plenty of smaller discussions within the bigger one, but again they will become exhausted at some stage.
Life, and the club, will go on!
I suggest you get particularly worried about the threat of a player leaving if you feel they are a) irreplaceable or b) they are so pivotal to team performance that the remaining players could not operate to SL standard without him. In DB's case I do not believe he is irreplaceable (even within the budgetary parameters his departure would generate, although the time for recruitment would be a challenge if starting from scratch) and the experience last year showed me that our best team performances didn't involve DB.
Whatever the outcome of this issue, I come to the same conclusion as TRB, the club will certainly go on, and I would go as far to say may actually see an improvement in fortunes.
By the way, is it a nice BMW?
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| Quote: rubber man "I suggest you get particularly worried about the threat of a player leaving if you feel they are a) irreplaceable or b) they are so pivotal to team performance that the remaining players could not operate to SL standard without him. In DB's case I do not believe he is irreplaceable (even within the budgetary parameters his departure would generate, although the time for recruitment would be a challenge if starting from scratch) and the experience last year showed me that our best team performances didn't involve DB.
Whatever the outcome of this issue, I come to the same conclusion as TRB, the club will certainly go on, and I would go as far to say may actually see an improvement in fortunes.
By the way, is it a nice BMW?'"
Didn't even realise they made minibuses.
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| If we're giving him what he asked for, what's his problem.
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| Quote: LyndsayGill "If we're giving him what he asked for, what's his problem.'"
I can understand him not signing up now, he'll wait and see if he can get a better offer elsewhere, thats how i would see it, of course he risks us finding another player and dropping the offer but he'll wait as long as he can.
No loyalty will be shown.
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| Stayed out of this debate as the info I was given wont please anyone on here, not saying its concrete but just reporting the info relayed to me. A friend of mine who is related to someone on the coaching staff at hudds saidbthat there is a contract in their safe with danny broughs signature on it for next season. Suppose only time will tell whether this is true or not, could be a wind up for all i know but this type of underhand dealing does go on in our game and more frequently than you would like to imagine.
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| Quote: Uptoncat "Stayed out of this debate as the info I was given wont please anyone on here, not saying its concrete but just reporting the info relayed to me. A friend of mine who is related to someone on the coaching staff at hudds saidbthat there is a contract in their safe with danny broughs signature on it for next season. Suppose only time will tell whether this is true or not, could be a wind up for all i know but this type of underhand dealing does go on in our game and more frequently than you would like to imagine.'"
Whatever will be will be, he's not the be all and end all of rugby league and our club. At least people understand he's been offered what he asked for so theres no chance of sniping at the club.
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| If he is on his way do people think we will start the season without replacing him, make a move for a deal such as Cooke or will we have a bolt out of the blue?
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| Quote: BIGAL1 "Whatever will be will be, he's not the be all and end all of rugby league and our club. At least people understand he's been offered what he asked for so theres no chance of sniping at the club.'"
My sentiments exactly. The club have done their damndest to keep him whether he opts to stay is up to him.
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| Quote: Uptoncat "Stayed out of this debate as the info I was given wont please anyone on here, not saying its concrete but just reporting the info relayed to me. A friend of mine who is related to someone on the coaching staff at hudds saidbthat there is a contract in their safe with danny broughs signature on it for next season. Suppose only time will tell whether this is true or not, could be a wind up for all i know but this type of underhand dealing does go on in our game and more frequently than you would like to imagine.'"
if that is true then I would expect Trinity to do everything in their power to expose that deal. They should lodge their suspicions with The RFL and then set about brokering a deal with any and every club except Huddersfield. If Broughy has a contract with the giants he will systematicaly turn each and every one of them down. When his contract is up and he suddenly announces that he's signed on at the Galpharm the RFL should investigate his agent, DB and the giants.
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| As I said it may be a wind up, then again it might be true, only time will tell. I for one seriously hope its a wind up as DB is the one player at our club who we really could build a successful side around. Even if it is true how would it be proven? Also if it is true there is nothing to stop DB turning his back on them and signing with us or any other he club he may get offers from, its hardly like Hudds could come out and say we've got a contract with brough as they would be admitting to tapping up. I know of a player who (a couple of seasons ago) had a contract signed with Cas but then signed with his existing club after they upped their contract offer for him, nothing Cas could do about it as the contract in reality isn't worth the paper its written on until after the anti-tampering deadline day.
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| As long as the club set DB a date in the not so distant future to confirm his intentions, then I don't have an issue.
Scenario 1: DB wants to stay and signs his contract
Scenario 2: DB decides his future lies elsewhere, we keep him until his contract expires. In the interim period we have got plenty of time to secure a top class half back to replace him for 2011. If the stories are even vaguely accurate regading the size of the contract, then that kind of money would get us a better player than DB.
What I wouldn't want to see is the club panicking and looking for a replacement now, we have got plenty of time.
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| Quote: Uptoncat "DB is the one player at our club who we really could build a successful side around. quote]
Beg to differ with that one. If you want to build a team around someone you choose someone who is consistent, who puts the team first, who is respected by his team-mates (i.e is looked up to, not just 'one of the lads') and does not throw his teddy out when things go badly. Danny may get to that stage in the future, but for now he's a very good player who occasionally is sensational - he is NOT (yet?) a leader. For leaders in our team you're looking at JD and Obst IMHO.
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| Clearly the best scenario is for him to be signed and sealed.
Lets imagine however that he is holding out for a free at the end of the season and leaves. Whilst he is a talismanic player to us for whom a like for like replacement would be hard to come by, such players (arguably better players) have come and gone in the past 5 or 6 years and the club has continued to flourish. I beg to differ with upton cat that DB is the one player we can build a side around. I think there are several similarly important players but at the end of the day the side is build around and by JK and PB - their constant presences is reassurance enough to me. DB had done us a decent shift - I'd love it to go on for longer but if it isn't to be good luck to him and we will move on.
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