the sooner you all realise that Belle Vue is going to be the own only home the better

That seems like the obvious fall-back position, but there are complications about BV that don't exist at NM. Both have pros and cons. Don't write anything off just yet, although I would admit that BV is slight favourite.

You debate stopper you

A redeveloped Belle Vue is less of a risk. You won't lose anyone, but you might gain a few.

For all the benefits of Newmarket, getting away from the place could put people off eventually. Imagine having to drive off the AJ Bell car park every other week. It was the same at Leigh.

The Hull KR ground is the most interesting example of the ones mentioned, because they managed to replace a bit of a dump with a bit of a dump. Takes some doing (although the new stand looks better).

The best new ground by far is Halliwell Jones. It's the right size for a rugby stadium, has plenty of standing, and is near town.

OK, more meetings, and still much to do, but some progress made and some timescales to things being put in place agreed.

Once again, there is too much which is sensitive or commercial or both, but I can say that there is a concerted effort to try and get things moving once again.

And no, I can't confirm which one as both are still possibilities, but as a betting man (a bad one), I'd say more likely BV - but don't hang me if I'm wrong!

Bell Market - now that has got a ring to it !

i know how much work has gone into newmarket but imo it could be the death of the club. success is not guarenteed and we could end up with a white elephant stuck in no mans land with little appetite to go attend. thornes park ground only would be better option as would sharlston pit. with the kibble as training complex. or normanton or denby dale road.

Belle Vue for me it is our home, it is our history, you would not see Leeds looking to move from their ground. We have a good basis with the playing surface, I know we have to buy it back but the cost including the refurbishments required would be much less that starting from nothing.
I believe our biggest problem will be those people living behind the West terracing the development of the other three sides would have little or no impact.

Maybe more substancial structures would actually be of benefit to those living around the ground, noise wise at least....cos when them crowds start to build

A view from "outside" (as a Saints supporter of 50+ years): ask me the same question 5 years ago re Knowsley Road... emotional answer has to be "re-develop KR" problem is who pays for it? Now that Langtree Park is built, there is no comparison.. Langtree wins on every point (except "history", but that just means that we will need to create some history at LT!). Having said that I've no idea where Newmarket is in relation to BV - it makes no difference to me, but it might make a lot of difference to regular home fans.

Normanton to BV according to google is 3.8 miles, Normy to Newmarket lane is 6.1 miles, quite a difference. Plus getting to BV by bus/train is a doddle but I'd guess getting to Newmarket would be a bus into Wakey, then a Leeds bus via Stanley and a short walk, BV is much easier for us from Normy.

That's surprisng tbh. When I think of going to Normy from where I am, it's just down the road from Altofts, must be further than I thought. I sometimes forget that Normy is jusy over t'Common. My thinking was that Normy is just a junction down from Newmarket and pretty easy to get to, obviously that's if you've got a car or lift.

I think those that use Public Transport it's easier to get to BV no doubt.

Not a crticism of you in anyway, I was surprised myself but we did get a quote from our mini bus and the difference was quite staggering, that's why I googled it.

Never thought it was mate. Just looking on google maps myself and you're right it, even though it's just a junction down it's around 6 miles, motorways can be deceiving.

So you didn't believe me?

It seemed like complete fantasy, so it had to be done mate.

BV for me, never keen on Newmarket to be honest.

Will we be able to develop BV, isn't the lease up at the end of the year?