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Quote: John Kear "Yeah i was there it was fine, not impressed with it been thrown other peoples heads tbh but i'm not gonna whine like a bitch and let it ruin yesterday for me.'"


Sorry mate, but I'm gonna whine until the idiots in our crowd get it - stop dicking about and support the team.

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The actions of a few wether that be fighting or flares should not over shadow the excellent support both teams brought to the match and more importantly the excellent game we were lucky enough to witness

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Quote: John Kear "Yeah i was there it was fine, not impressed with it been thrown other peoples heads tbh but i'm not gonna whine like a bitch and let it ruin yesterday for me.'"


I don't think anyone is letting it spoil their day.
I'm still smiling and I haven't had chance to talk to my best mate (who is a long time Cas fan) so I have an entertaining phone call ahead.

But the fact remains, some people who don't know how to behave in public spoil the atmosphere for others.
It doesn't take much to put people off attending sporting events so any crowd disturbance is not preferred. The trouble outside was not good and they should be banned too but outside the ground it is more for the police than the club. Inside, it's all on the club.

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Put forum on to read about match and met by this.
Idiots!Was in Glassblowers before and aft.No problems . Friendly banter with Cas' fans. Stood at railway and saw nothing.Well, the flares or whatever they were.
Along Wheldon Road after and saw no sign of 'trouble'.
Remarked to my son that everyone seemed in good spirits and now I read of fighting.
Deflating.

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If smoke bombs are prohibited isn't this more of a club issue for Cas and their security arrangements than it is for Trinity? Yes, ban individuals but surely, if there's a fine in the offing, it should be for Cas not us?

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Quote: Kevs Head "If smoke bombs are prohibited isn't this more of a club issue for Cas and their security arrangements than it is for Trinity? Yes, ban individuals but surely, if there's a fine in the offing, it should be for Cas not us?'"


I suppose thats a bit like blaming the Leigh club for the actions of the Widnes "fans" at last years CC semi-final.

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Quote: milopolly "Put forum on to read about match and met by this.
Idiots!Was in Glassblowers before and aft.No problems . Friendly banter with Cas' fans. Stood at railway and saw nothing.Well, the flares or whatever they were.
Along Wheldon Road after and saw no sign of 'trouble'.
Remarked to my son that everyone seemed in good spirits and now I read of fighting.
Deflating.'"

I shouldn't get too deflated to be honest, if you put 10,000 vicars together you'd get some sort of altercation.

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Why? did Widnes fans throw smoke bombs on to the pitch?
Stupid comparison d040.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Kevs Head "If smoke bombs are prohibited isn't this more of a club issue for Cas and their security arrangements than it is for Trinity? Yes, ban individuals but surely, if there's a fine in the offing, it should be for Cas not us?'"



I think the game chat is all a bit subdued because we area ll so stunned.
We were playing ok but Cas were getting the points and we were dropping the ball.
It's just something we need to clean up. Shouldn't distract from what was an outstanding result for us.

The players celebrated like they'd won Super League.

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Quote: financialtimes "Why? did Widnes fans throw smoke bombs on to the pitch?
Stupid comparison No, they threw hoardings onto the field, tried invading the playing area, then kicked the mascots head around, so not a particularly stupid comparison in my opinion.

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Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "So if a orange smoke bomb is thrown on the pitch at Belle Vue when cas come will they get a 20k fine? It's all been blown out of preportion happens every match at the football. Nobody was hurt not like the fighting after the match which doesn't get much of a mention of cas been fined.'"



I don't know, do Cas have a suspended fine hanging over their heads for previous trouble like we have??

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Quote: Bullseye "It’s a sad say when you bring in segregation. The majority of fans can and do behave themselves. Why should the majority suffer because of a few idiots who can’t?

TBH fans should be able to stand/sit where they like and not be afraid they’ll get a kicking. 99/100 if you’re not acting like a dick you’ll be fine. I’ve stood in the sounthstand many times (I prefer the view from the sideline) and never once felt threatened despite being an away fan.

The answers for me would be the following, for games against teams where there has been trouble do the following

Bullseye...I agree - it is a sad day when we bring in segregation, but yesterday was the case in point as to why we should !.
As I said previously, it should only be for high-profile games such as this, and not for every match, as I believe Rugby League has a long way to go before it descends into the vitriolic hatred that the "wendy-ball" fans have for each other !!

I disagree with your next point too - the majority wouldn't suffer - the minority of morons who wanted to go and stand amongst the opposition fans would be the only ones who would suffer - from frustration at not being able to goad their like-minded opposition morons into a fight.....the majority would be able to continue their enjoyment of the game !!
I do agree with your other points though icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: John Kear "Timing of the smoke bombs (not flares, jesus christ) was poor. But the reaction has been blown way out of proportion. To ban the young lads from the sport 'worldwide' is pathetic! A bit of smoke burnt for around 10 seconds and didn't cause anyone any bother. No harm done.

I can't believe that some wakefield 'fans' are on here to have a whinge rather than celebrate a derby win!'"



What is pathetic is your attempt to dismiss this as nothing. The club have a suspended fine hanging over them from the incident with Widnes previously and this "nothing" incident will probably cost the club £10,000. Still think it's not worth worrying about?? Will you still feel that way if we have to let someone go to cover the cost of paying the fine?? or if we get an injury and there is no money in the pot to go out and get a loan player in because we've had to spend it on this??

Banning them is not pathetic, it is the right thing to do. What they did was dangerous whether you think it was or not and is also not allowed inside sports stadia (just because you've seen it on TV in football matches doesn't make it OK).

And I suggest you might like to invest in a new watch if you thought that was only 10 seconds.

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Quote: JINJER "No, they threw hoardings onto the field, tried invading the playing area, then kicked the mascots head around, so not a particularly stupid comparison in my opinion.'"

Sorry but your world is a million miles from mine, I guess you probs thing that driving using your mobile should carry the same penalty as genocide d040.gif

For the record, it is illegal to carry a smoke bomb/firework/flare (all items treated the same) in to a sports stadium and carries a maximum sentence of 3 months, setting off said item in a stadium would also be subject to a 3 months sentence, in football it is a mandatory 3 year ban for carrying out either of the afore mentioned acts. But it's worth noting, this was carried out by 1 or 2 individuals, the events at Leigh sports village involved over 150 "Widnes Fans" (that's how many entered the pitch. to suggest that 2 people behaving like mens genitals is the same as 150+ thugs running riot is ludicrous to say the least icon_rolleyes.gif

BTW at the time they went off in the ground my initial thoughts were "What gentleman's sausage has done that as regardless of result that will be the headline tomorrow" They need prosecuting to the letter of the law (3 months prison) and banning for 3 years from any sports ground in the UK icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: FIL "Segregation has got to be the only answer for big games like this, otherwise this is what happens. Would any of us go in the South Stand at Headingley ???...of course we wouldn't as we would likely get a good kicking, and you could say the same for most away grounds, so if Cas allow their home fans to stand in the away end at matches such as this, then I'm afraid this will always happen - fierce local derby, passionate fans, too much alcohol

Segregation is for the football idiots
rugby league is about good nature and family values
We managed without segregation and I don't see why we need to do it now

Promotion of tolerance and respect are what are needed

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