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Quote: TheTiger123 "do Wakefield fans not realise that the permission gave a couple of weeks ago doesn't mean anything it - yes you have got the first bit of planning permission which is a hard bit, but you still need full planning permission and the funding to get it (although I am told you have the funding). I can remember this exact moment when Cas' first planning permission got the green light, believe me there is a long way to go'"


Nobody doubts that.
The reason everyone is happy is that this stage was a possible showstopper and it has proved, with a lot of hard work from many people, that it is no longer a block to us.

Cas passed this point a long time ago but have then stopped for other reasons. We were held back at this point so took a lot of work to move on but it appears (and time will tell) that work has been progressing in all the other areas, which will speed up the later changes.

Either way, there are no diggers on Newmarket either, but we are still happy there is progress.

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Quote: vastman "Don't you dare take that high handed attitude with me pal, not for one second. I rarely get mad on these forums these days but those comments are reprehensible.

Your belated sense of community is frankly pathetic, we at SWAG certainly need no lessons in community spirit - it's been our mantra since day one in 2004.

Where were the Cas fans when we were marching on the Town Hall, signing petitions, lobbying MP's and Councillors? Nowhere, that's where. In fact it's only now that any of you are actually conceeding it's a community stadium - something Wakey fans accepted about 8 years ago!

It's not us and certainly not me who has the childish attitude - it's your club and your fans who have had it from day one - because you thought you had it over us.

Steady SWAG were there when Ted and Peter Box virtually begged Cas to join is a joint community Stadium - you know a stadium for the community you are suddenly part of. Only for RW to laugh in their faces, what a stupid man and that's been the attitude of everyone involved with Cas since - well until now.

Right from the start SWAG wanted Cas on board, if they had of been I have no doubt we would be in a new Stadium right now. Yet in all that time not one Cas fan has ever come forward and even attempted to see what was on offer - not one!

Odd when you consider how much effort a certain Leeds fan has put into a project that he gains very little from.

As I clearly state, it isn't our Stadium and it is for community use. However any fair minded decent human being would have to accept that it was Wakefield who pushed this and made it happen - and because of this deserve to benefit most, natural justice demands it. RW has stepped down because he hasn't got the humility within him to admit how monumentally wrong he was.

Saddest thing of all is that NM is still not a certainty and it would benefit hugely from Castlefords support - but my experience is that Cas are a self serving club and will never join in the true spirit of a community stadium - there will always be an angle. In the same way you are clearly demanding equal access for all for purely self serving reasons despite no effort on your part and sod the rest. You don't even have any representation on the trust so dismissive of the project have you been All very sad.

Until Cas fans genuinly commit and see NM as the shared future for all rather than the last chance saloon in case GH fails then I fail to see what they bring to the table and why they deserve to be part of a community project they have spent 8 years trying to strangle at birth - hardly the act of a community minded club is it.

Don't lecture us on community as you are clearly out of your depth, as for chips I suggest you have the whole damn shop on your shoulder.
Still arguing points ive not made to suit your agenda vasty. As for using phrases like high handed attitude and reprehensible; get a grip of yourself you silly sausage. (is this where I use the little rolly eye thingy?).
The fact that you've got so upset shows how big the chip on your shoulder is. All I have referred to are community facilities whereas you choose to go on and on and on about stadium, thus highlighting what it was always about for you......trinity; not the community really. So cut the bull cos I see through you. Feel free to pontificate further and bask in applause of other like minded folk.

I don't doubt that the points you've made old cock, I just don't see why they're directed at me. You talk about my "belated sense of community" like you know me; when in fact you've no idea who I am or what I do every day for "the community". So forgive me while I indulge myself and take a leaf out of your book where we're you when i was out safeguarding at risk children and taking them to a place of safety? Where we're you when I was rescheduling my life so I could get to meetings between social services, education officers, the police and NHS reps? Where we're you at 3 an 4 in the morning while I was out keeping the community as safe as I could? The list goes on and on vasty and I'll bet you're nowhere to be found on it go lecture someone else.

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Quote: bren2k "Yes, we're aware of that - start of the 2015 season if everything goes to plan.

I guess the difference is that our Chairman is being honest with his own supporters and the rest of the RL community about the timescales involved, rather than the constant prestidigitation that RW opted for, which has done Cas no favours at all.'"



Wait a minute, are you saying we still haven't done any publicity shots of Andrew Glover with his hard hat on stood at the entrance to Newmarket, with a couple of borrowed diggers behind him. Surely we should have done this to be followed up with a press conference saying building is due to start any day now....honest!

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Quote: vastman "Don't you dare take that high handed attitude with me pal, not for one second. I rarely get mad on these forums these days but those comments are reprehensible.

Your belated sense of community is frankly pathetic, we at SWAG certainly need no lessons in community spirit - it's been our mantra since day one in 2004.

Where were the Cas fans when we were marching on the Town Hall, signing petitions, lobbying MP's and Councillors? Nowhere, that's where. In fact it's only now that any of you are actually conceeding it's a community stadium - something Wakey fans accepted about 8 years ago!

It's not us and certainly not me who has the childish attitude - it's your club and your fans who have had it from day one - because you thought you had it over us.

Steady SWAG were there when Ted and Peter Box virtually begged Cas to join is a joint community Stadium - you know a stadium for the community you are suddenly part of. Only for RW to laugh in their faces, what a stupid man and that's been the attitude of everyone involved with Cas since - well until now.

Right from the start SWAG wanted Cas on board, if they had of been I have no doubt we would be in a new Stadium right now. Yet in all that time not one Cas fan has ever come forward and even attempted to see what was on offer - not one!

Odd when you consider how much effort a certain Leeds fan has put into a project that he gains very little from.

As I clearly state, it isn't our Stadium and it is for community use. However any fair minded decent human being would have to accept that it was Wakefield who pushed this and made it happen - and because of this deserve to benefit most, natural justice demands it. RW has stepped down because he hasn't got the humility within him to admit how monumentally wrong he was.

Saddest thing of all is that NM is still not a certainty and it would benefit hugely from Castlefords support - but my experience is that Cas are a self serving club and will never join in the true spirit of a community stadium - there will always be an angle. In the same way you are clearly demanding equal access for all for purely self serving reasons despite no effort on your part and sod the rest. You don't even have any representation on the trust so dismissive of the project have you been All very sad.

Until Cas fans genuinly commit and see NM as the shared future for all rather than the last chance saloon in case GH fails then I fail to see what they bring to the table and why they deserve to be part of a community project they have spent 8 years trying to strangle at birth - hardly the act of a community minded club is it.

Don't lecture us on community as you are clearly out of your depth, as for chips I suggest you have the whole damn shop on your shoulder.
eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif Spot on.

I've said earlier on this thread that I saw a letter from Richard Wright where he stated categorically that he and Castleford did not wish to be part of and a tenant in the Wakefield & District Community Stadium. He was offerred the chance and turned it down.

Newmarket will be a Community Stadium and its up to the Wakefield & District Community Trust who plays there and I'm sure Castleford will be more than welcome - they just have to make their mind up what they want to do and pretty quickly I guess. If Wakefield and Wakefield FC sign up there will not be room for many more teams to play there regularly - unless it has a pitch like Widnes.

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It is such a missed opportunity for Cas in my opinion. If they were in with equal standing with Wakefield the plans could be sorted so that two teams could work independantly and the colours and design could represent both teams (3 teams to include FC too)
As it stands, if cas wait until 'their' stadium fails and then come in, they will just be a tennant of a stadium already built and designed with Wakefield in mind.
They will then look like the poor relation in 'our' stadium.

Perception wins over fact every time.

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Quote: Fordy "Wait a minute, are you saying we still haven't done any publicity shots of Andrew Glover with his hard hat on stood at the entrance to Newmarket, with a couple of borrowed diggers behind him. Surely we should have done this to be followed up with a press conference saying building is due to start any day now....honest!'"


Don't forget a series of misleading press releases, suggesting £billions of inward investment and the complete revitalisaton of the City.

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Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "....
I don't doubt that the points you've made old cock, I just don't see why they're directed at me. You talk about my "belated sense of community" like you know me; when in fact you've no idea who I am or what I do every day for "the community". So forgive me while I indulge myself and take a leaf out of your book where we're you when i was out safeguarding at risk children and taking them to a place of safety? Where we're you when I was rescheduling my life so I could get to meetings between social services, education officers, the police and NHS reps? Where we're you at 3 an 4 in the morning while I was out keeping the community as safe as I could? The list goes on and on vasty and I'll bet you're nowhere to be found on it go lecture someone else.'"


You sound to be a very conscientious, professional person but why should Vastman be with you whilst your doing your job??

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Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "Still arguing points ive not made to suit your agenda vasty. As for using phrases like high handed attitude and reprehensible; get a grip of yourself you silly sausage. (is this where I use the little rolly eye thingy?).
The fact that you've got so upset shows how big the chip on your shoulder is. All I have referred to are community facilities whereas you choose to go on and on and on about stadium, thus highlighting what it was always about for you......trinity; not the community really. So cut the bull cos I see through you. Feel free to pontificate further and bask in applause of other like minded folk.

I don't doubt that the points you've made old cock, I just don't see why they're directed at me. You talk about my "belated sense of community" like you know me; when in fact you've no idea who I am or what I do every day for "the community". So forgive me while I indulge myself and take a leaf out of your book where we're you when i was out safeguarding at risk children and taking them to a place of safety? Where we're you when I was rescheduling my life so I could get to meetings between social services, education officers, the police and NHS reps? Where we're you at 3 an 4 in the morning while I was out keeping the community as safe as I could? The list goes on and on vasty and I'll bet you're nowhere to be found on it go lecture someone else.'"


What agenda, I'm discussing the topic raised by the original poster - you (and a few more) on the other hand appear to be attempting to create an alternate universe.

I never denied my involvement was for the sake of WTRLFC or any of the other SWAG members as far as I know. The critical difference is we were always willing to share whatever we got - you as fans and as a club were not. The only bit of NM I'm interested in is the Stadium, however I am really pleased we got it within the wider framework of the community through which many more people will benefit.

What I'm not willing to accept is to see the efforts of the Trinity fans, SWAG, Ted Richardson, Andrew Glover etc whitewashed out of history to allow Castleford to condecend to join us at NM - because I can see right through you lot as well. It is a community stadium for all including Cas no one denies that, but how it got there should all go to plan is a credit to the fans of WTRLFC, the Council and Yorkcourt and nothing to do with Castleford and that has to be acknowledged at all times IMHO without compromise.

Don't get your last paragraph, bizarre.

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Quote: Kevs Head "You sound to be a very conscientious, professional person but why should Vastman be with you whilst your doing your job??'"


Damn that was good repost, wished I'd thought of it icon_biggrin.gifOH: icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: Kevs Head "You sound to be a very conscientious, professional person but why should Vastman be with you whilst your doing your job??'"


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Is Mother Theresa alive and well and posting masquerading as a Cas fan.

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Quote: Kevs Head "You sound to be a very conscientious, professional person but why should Vastman be with you whilst your doing your job??'"


Zing!

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Quote: bren2k "Don't forget a series of misleading press releases, suggesting £billions of inward investment and the complete revitalisaton of the City.'"


And the rigged feasibilty study, that was a blatant stunt that they tried to pull in order to try and get Newmarket dumped and all funding diverted to Glasshoughton.

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Quote: jack in the box "And the rigged feasibilty study, that was a blatant stunt that they tried to pull in order to try and get Newmarket dumped and all funding diverted to Glasshoughton.'"


And a letter to the planning committee, suggesting that there's no need for a supermarket in Castleford because they can share the one in Pontefract, even though it hasn't been built yet and won't be for the forseeable future.

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Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "Still arguing points ive not made to suit your agenda vasty. As for using phrases like high handed attitude and reprehensible; get a grip of yourself you silly sausage. (is this where I use the little rolly eye thingy?).
The fact that you've got so upset shows how big the chip on your shoulder is. All I have referred to are community facilities whereas you choose to go on and on and on about stadium, thus highlighting what it was always about for you......trinity; not the community really. So cut the bull cos I see through you. Feel free to pontificate further and bask in applause of other like minded folk.

I don't doubt that the points you've made old cock, I just don't see why they're directed at me. You talk about my "belated sense of community" like you know me; when in fact you've no idea who I am or what I do every dar "the community". So forgive me while I indulge myself and take a leaf out of What do you want,a paper hat ,you boring man.
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Quote: TheTiger123 "do Wakefield fans not realise that the permission gave a couple of weeks ago doesn't mean anything it - yes you have got the first bit of planning permission which is a hard bit, but you still need full planning permission and the funding to get it (although I am told you have the funding). I can remember this exact moment when Cas' first planning permission got the green light, believe me there is a long way to go'"


There was a long way to go for Cas. If you'd had the things Wakey have got in place when you got your full permission, you'd be in your stadium by now. Don't assume or hope that ours will be as long as yours. Different issues behind the delay entirely. We will be starting the beginning of 2015 in the new stadium, I am very confident of that. Further, I think those in charge have estimated a later date than reality, just to accommodate the odd delay here and there.

If Newmarket doesn't come off, nothing ever will and we're doomed.

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MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH 28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 27 721 336 385 44
Warrington 28 761 341 420 42
Hull KR 27 719 327 392 42
Leigh 28 580 404 176 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 27 655 469 186 30
Widnes 26 551 475 76 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
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