Why not?

There are obvious physical similarities, so theoretically they are capable of being a very similar type of player. I agree that in reality, they aren't the same person but that doesn't mean one can't learn from the other.

Don't think we need to get too bogged down in semantics here, all I'm saying is that potentially Dave could be as good as his brother, I don't think he will, its too late and he's too different in temperament but he can aspire, nowt wrong with that.

Did you want to say something

I'm waiting to see what the coaches learnt from last season

Have a team of cyborgs who don't get injured?

Nothing wrong with learning from anybody but it's not his target in my opinion.
Of course he can aim to be the best prop in the world but his first step is to be better than the props around him.

I do no think Hampshire has anything to prove, last season he was consistently excellent, he was our most creative player, durable and a brilliant finisher. He was our best half back and best player by a country mile.

Thank God it's a simple game .

He played full back and wing.
What Fish is saying I think, is that he isn't proved as the half back he wants to be.

No mate he isn't any of those things I'm afraid.

I can only assume you're a wind-up merchant because much as I like Hampshire it's impossible for anyone with a serious interest in the game to make the statement you've just made. Worse still I don't think it helps the lad when people give him that kind of acclaim, it needs to be earned by deeds not just because you and a few others seem to idolise him.

Truth is his best position last year was actually on the wing where I thought he played extremely well and his finishing was superb.

At FB he was also pretty good, at HB he didn't do so well and if you were being honest you'd admit that. He was consistent in terms of effort, no argument. Best player? Certainly one of the better ones but by a country mile! That really does make you sound a bit ridiculous. Finally 'most creative", easily the weakest part of his game IMHO, seriously Belly when he sorts that part of his game then you will have an argument.

Exactly.

In a way, it's the fault of his support brigade rather than Ryan himself. They seem obsessed that he is an HB and as of yet IMHO he hasn't proved it at senior level. I wish he would as we'd have a superstar on our hands but just saying it doesn't make it so,

Also IMHO there is nothing wrong with him ending up on the wing or at FB, all positions are vital but there does seem to be a certain snobbery regarding the HB roll. Truth is loads of great players don't end up playing in the same positions as adults as the excelled in as kids, why should they? it's not re-ordained.

I'm all for giving Ryan as many chances as we can but it's up to him to take them and as yet the HB role has eluded him a bit. That said he hasn't proved to be terrible when given the chance I hasten to add, just hasn't exploded into the limelight as much as I'd hoped and thus I still prefer Miller and Brough for now. Also granted it was only a friendly.

Well I cant think of a better player last season, head and shoulders our best player.