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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "Most people support Trinity because it represents their city.'"
Except they don't, in any numbers that justify the continued existence of a SL club.
Given the absolute certainty that WMDC have washed their hands of WT, it seems that MC has no choice but to find a viable alternative; and it would seem that Dewsbury is it - sad, but true.
Maybe the two will merge and form some kind of super-club; almost what Uncle Maurice wanted, but not quite...
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| Quote: Sandal Cat "Which stadium are you referring to ?
I think Dewsbury's is owned by the Club.'"
Dewsbury, sadly I'm well aware who owns or doesn't own BV ![Sad icon_sad.gif](images/smilies//icon_sad.gif)
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| Quote: bren2k "Except they don't, in any numbers that justify the continued existence of a SL club.
Given the absolute certainty that WMDC have washed their hands of WT, it seems that MC has no choice but to find a viable alternative; and it would seem that Dewsbury is it - sad, but true.
Maybe the two will merge and form some kind of super-club; almost what Uncle Maurice wanted, but not quite...'"
I was thinking that the other day, by moving the Owl Lane and producing a new club you's have the real Calder RLFC - wonder if we could get the money back dated to 1995.
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| Quote: bren2k "Except they don't, in any numbers that justify the continued existence of a SL club.'"
Indeed, so when the club up sticks and leaves the city, even less new fans will feel inclined to go watch a Wakefield team play out of another town, notwithstanding the existing support who may or may not drop away after the move. I don't see a positive future but I concede we appear to have little choice, especially if 88m want to develop the land into something other than a sports arena. Reading the loverugbyleague article, they do have plans all be it Carter isn't very optimistic of a decent outcome.
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| Quote: vastman "Dewsbury, sadly I'm well aware who owns or doesn't own BV
Thought you may have been thinking about the proposed stadium at Glasshougton.
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| Quote: thebeagle "If the Cas stadium is realised and we are are still struggling on at shabby, miserable Belle Vue the exodus of 'fans' to Cas will happen anyway. Yes my dream is still a fully developed Belle Vue, but at some time we have to ' bight the bullet'. If the new landlords do not come up with a definate scheme we will have no alternative.As for accessibility and nearness to the city centre Dewsbury's ground is on a par with Newmarket.'"
Cant see any Wakefield fans going to Cas, unless its to watch Wakefield play them.
I wouldnt watch Cas if you paid me and game me a lift
IF Trinity ceased to exist, Id go to Dewsbury or Fev, Cas or Leeds are off limits.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Indeed, so when the club up sticks and leaves the city, even less new fans will feel inclined to go watch a Wakefield team play out of another town, notwithstanding the existing support who may or may not drop away after the move.'"
Being slightly more optimistic - if it's managed properly, and PR'd in such a way that tells the story and spins it as the only way to secure the future of the club, it might generate some support from those people who have had an interest, but have been complicit in the clubs continued lurch from failure to failure by never actually turning up to support? And you might just waken some extra interest in Ossett, Horbury, Netherton, Middlestown, Dewsbury, Batley etc - bit of SL razzamatazz on their doorstep could see them make the short trip to Owl Lane?
One thing's for sure - if nothing changes, everything stays the same.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Indeed, so when the club up sticks and leaves the city, even less new fans will feel inclined to go watch a Wakefield team play out of another town, notwithstanding the existing support who may or may not drop away after the move. I don't see a positive future but I concede we appear to have little choice, especially if 88m want to develop the land into something other than a sports arena. Reading the loverugbyleague article, they do have plans all be it Carter isn't very optimistic of a decent outcome.'"
Agree, that's why Newmarket (or a redeveloped Belle Vue) was such an important project to Trinity, both from the stand point of getting out of crumbling ground, but from the stand point of also attracting new punters (both new ones from home and away), sponsorship, corporate etc. It seems we're going to be left with little choice but most thought in a new stadium, with a decent performing team playing in it, it could literally put thousands on the attendance. I can't see that future at Dewsbury unfortunately but I suppose it's better than nothing.
The other thing is, would Dewsbury let us have any stake in their ground. The only way I personally could see them agreeing to anything, other than just playing there and paying them rent, is if we bring cash to the table, or paying for making the place bigger. Something I think we'll struggle to do. Also I wonder if we made a permanent move, what would the RFL consider the minimum Capacity for SL?
Tbh I've been sticking it all to the back of mind recently because it's a complete downer. Especially when things look so positive in all other aspects of the Club atm and the only thing holding us back from really progressing is the bloody ground.
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| I can't see anything but a move to Dewsbury myself, I know MC likes to call people's bluff at times but reading the article on the ground holding us back he doesn't sound convinced.
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| Quote: bren2k "Being slightly more optimistic - if it's managed properly, and PR'd in such a way that tells the story and spins it as the only way to secure the future of the club, it might generate some support from those people who have had an interest, but have been complicit in the clubs continued lurch from failure to failure by never actually turning up to support? And you might just waken some extra interest in Ossett, Horbury, Netherton, Middlestown, Dewsbury, Batley etc - bit of SL razzamatazz on their doorstep could see them make the short trip to Owl Lane?
One thing's for sure - if nothing changes, everything stays the same.'"
Yes perfectly true and that is why approaching the problem in a managed way is much better than waiting for the inevitable to happen when BV will be deemed unsafe and we would have to make an immediate move perhaps mid season..
One other point, its not only Belle Vue stadium but the area around the ground which is also the issue. The way that part of Wakefield has spiralled down hill into its present state of degradation is a damning indictment on the Box controlled council.
I certainly know the location of the ground itself is a big negative factor to away supporters and also there are plenty of people in an around Wakefield who will hold back from trying out the 'match day experience' due to the location and state of BV.
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| Quote: bren2k "Except they don't, in any numbers that justify the continued existence of a SL club.
Given the absolute certainty that WMDC have washed their hands of WT, it seems that MC has no choice but to find a viable alternative; and it would seem that Dewsbury is it - sad, but true.
Maybe the two will merge and form some kind of super-club; almost what Uncle Maurice wanted, but not quite...'"
I'd support a team that was merged, and retained the Wakefield identity but a team, even borne out of the Wakefield Trinity team, without Wakefield affiliation will mean nothing to me.
There is no diffference then to supporting Cas or Leeds.
I support Wakefield Trinity as it is my city team. Councillors will come and go but if you lose the Wakefield name you will lose your biggest draw to supporters.
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| Quote: bren2k "Except they don't, in any numbers that justify the continued existence of a SL club.
Given the absolute certainty that WMDC have washed their hands of WT, it seems that MC has no choice but to find a viable alternative; and it would seem that Dewsbury is it - sad, but true.
Maybe the two will merge and form some kind of super-club; almost what Uncle Maurice wanted, but not quite...'"
People would come back in numbers I think, with a little success and the ground sorted (in the city!)
I wandered how long it would be before 'merger' was suggested.
I may be in a minority on here but a permanent move to Dewsbury is the end of Wakefield Trinity.
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| Quote: Trinity1315 "People would come back in numbers I think, with a little success and the ground sorted (in the city!)
I wandered how long it would be before 'merger' was suggested.
I may be in a minority on here but a permanent move to Dewsbury is the end of Wakefield Trinity.'"
My thoughts also, ![Sad icon_sad.gif](images/smilies//icon_sad.gif)
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| Quote: Trinity1315 "People would come back in numbers I think, with a little success and the ground sorted (in the city!)'"
If we'd been having even a little success and the ground situation were resolved we wouldn't be having this debate.
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| Just don't see why folk are so unable to adapt.I am 65 ,yet can are a future for my beloved Trinity at Owl Lane.
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