Being offered players is just the way the agents work.
It's not that he's waiting. It's just thats how the UK market works. You can't go tap up a player when he's in contract.
The overseas market is different which is why Chester could find Lino and Tanginoa without other clubs jumping in.

I’ve watched this team for close on 50 years and in that time I’ve seen some teams come and go , some good wins against the odds and some shellackings against poor teams but when I see our current squad who are by far the best equipped teams we’ve ever had in recent times throw the towel in , it’s simply not good enough . It’s amateur level at best and not something that should be anywhere near super league level Those players that go on the park are a dam sight better than what they are showing and if you are happy with that then so be it , as on this current course this ship is sailing straight towards disaster and all you can say is , they don’t get payed a lot . Well let me tell you something their all on a dam sight more money than me and probably most on here, and if I turned a performance in like that week in week out it would be the job centre for me . Load of cobblers hiding behind poor wages week in week out , I’m asking them to put a 80 min shift in once a week not climb Everest with me on their back .Ive payed my seasons ticket for this year and I’ll voice my opinion as long as I feel they put below par performances in .

Sorry do not get the Mr Chester tier C thing if you back your self as a Coach you should be abell to pick the best of the younger bunch .And not bring in players with a track record of injuries and players who are ready for the Championship.Look what Watson did at Salford

That's exactly the point. He can't pick the best of the bunch.
He has to pick from lower level players.

But just because he isn't Watson doesn't make him crap.
He did a good job but he also had some pretty decent players there.

And if Hastings had been injured like most of Chesters best players, I don't suppose he'd have done as well.

he shouldn't of said anything about players even if he thought it about them, that interview could come back to haunt him big time

Watson could keep is players fit getting fed up with injuries as a excuse .When Chester got sack at H K R think there was about 10 of the first team injured then .So we can take it that was nothing to do with Mr Chester

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The reality is we are watching a professional sports team only competing 50% a game which is far below the standard clearly required within any job. I might off 6 hours into a 12 hour ICU shift and see what happens. It’s got nothing to do with money it’s a professional responsibility as a professional athlete to do there job no matter how much they’re paid, pretty sure these boys are paid a shed load than me, as will a lot more people doing my job at the hospital ie agency, but that again doesn’t effect what I need to do in my job. I’m not expecting us to win a grand final, but compete more than 40/50 minutes a game and actually improve our embarrassing 18% win ratio over the last 40 games as we will be relegation fodder. You know we are playing far below what we are capable of, and some how combust after 50 minutes.

I agree, but that’s sod all to do with what Chester was on about.

I’m sure he’d agree with you regarding the 50% but that’s a completely different issue. The fact remains that we never get the A class players so we have to work far harder to compete on the field.

As I said on another thread I expected us to struggle in our first 3 league games what I didn’t expect was the manner of the defeats. I don’t suppose Chester did either, I’m sure only playing for fifty minutes is as unacceptable to him as it is to you and me and that would apply to players whatever grade they are.

I agree with what you’ve said. The issue with the A-B-C categories is surely flawed. Isn’t it a coaches job to see potential in players and get say a C into a B playing mould. What would Walmsley or Bullock of been in the championship when both saints and Wigan saw potential. How many A’s have come to the UK and bombed. It’s the coaches job to get the best out of the team, and that’s clearly not happening as our form and results clearly show.

Absolutely bang on PB I agree entirely. If it's not one excuse for defeat it's another, then another. The fact remains this coach should be doing a far better job with these players regardless of what tier they're categorised in, where they came from or how much they cost. If Ian Watson can take Salford to a Grand Final and Challenge Cup Final in successive seasons I'm damn sure he should be getting far more out of our current squad of players.

At last common sense prevails ,listening to some on here you’d think our players were basket cases and we’ve just to be happy that they can lace their boots up ,but don’t dare ask them to get stuck in for 80 ,or even have a few set moves ,as that’s too much to ask for. Never heard so much twaddle in all my days .

Clearly none of you watched it.
Chester explained exactly that in the interview.

And of course we get the 'if Watson can do it blah blah blah'
He's won just as many games as Chester this season with way more money available and a top A level scrum half..

Don't think Watson's done his washing in public and then left it out to dry

No I didn’t watch it hence why I was questioning the A-C system being used. If Sezer is a Top A player with 150 NRL appearances and no Rep games, what’s a Cameron Munster or Nathan cleary or a A++++++++++++

It's absolutely irrelevent what club he's coaching now. You said in previous posts we're on a par with Salford didn't you? A team we should be looking to be level with cos we can't expect to beat the St Helens and Wigan's and Catalans. Salford, along with Leigh and Hull KR are our pitch. Well if Salford is our level then we should be aspiring to get to cup finals. You can't just move the goalposts to suit your argument. Ian Watson got Salford to 2 finals with a similar budget to Wakefield Trinity did he not? He didn't spend a shed load more money bringing in A lister after A lister, he got the best out of what he had. He picked up players from other teams not doing the business, even squad players not getting a game did some wheeler dealing and built a competitive hard to beat side.

Think I would be happy watching Wakefield lose 18 -10 and win the second half 10- 6 to Sts than lose 36 -6and let 36 points be scored in the second half

I accept that Watson is a great coach and if he was at Wakefield I'd be very happy but just because Chester hasn't achieved what he has doesn't mean he's a bad coach.

But I keep seeing the stats to say, no matter what the circumstances, we are losing so Chester is bad but that doesn't apply to anyone else.

Yes I get he needs to improve things and maybe it's time to replace but at the moment we have a back line that would struggle in the championship. Until he gets his full team on the pitch I find it difficult to say its solely his fault.

I think the A/B/C thing is a bit of a red herring, it's something that hasn't changed throughout our time in Super League and we've certainly had worse squads on paper perform better than we are doing now. As a club we have to rely on the team performing better than the sum of it's parts because we are never gonna be able to compete with most other clubs financially. The problem is that we are currently (and for a fair while now) performing worse than you would expect from the sum of our parts IMO and ultimately that responsibility lies with Chester

I don’t get this Watson bit.

He was a good coach at Salford but he was also a very lucky one.

When Chester joined us he was also lucky then it ran out.

If Chester’s luck doesn’t change he’s out and ditto Watson.

Finally anybody who doesn’t think luck plays a huge part in anyone’s life is deluded, in truth it’s the difference, without it talent will never be enough.

Those who think you can make your own luck please send me Saturdays lotto numbers, thanks.

Chester fits the management team requirements. He's ready to accept the clubs budgets probably without question and in doing so makes his position tenable.
The real problem s for me is the clubs total lack of ambition and I that rubs off on the managers, and fans a like.
Surely in a professional sport the club has a responsibility to provide a competitive side and not settle for mediocrity.

Vastman I come in peace How is Watson lucky , he built a team from nothing and got them to the G F ,he lost 5 of is so called star players ,built the team back up. and the season after got them to the C F and they played good rugby.Now he is at Huddersfield and from what I saw last night they look fit and play good rugby. Mr Chester took over a fit team, lived of the back of that for a few years,and now he as built us a team that because of age or a case of just not been good enough for S L .plays the worst rugby in Super League Know we have a small budget but think, there are coaches out there who could have done a lot better

He was lucky because his star players stayed fit.
When we had a season where Grix Miller and Finn hardly missed a game we were comfortable in 5th and could have gone higher. If he'd lost Hastings for any length if time he'd have been down the middle and bottom with us.
He deserves credit for rebuilding and getting the team to perform at its best but Chester has done that in the past too. Right now he's struggling to get his team in the field. I agree about your aging team thing but equally, the guys missing aren't the old guys.

Come on PT surely in this situation you can see the difference?

Watson has built a new side and is 3 games in to his Giants career, we have a settled squad and are comparing to results over the last 3 years?

I don't think I disagree with much that has been said by anyone in this part of the thread - I would add though that I don't think luck kept Salford fit - Greg Brown did - and that man is an absolute magician of a conditioner. His moving back to Huddersfield (where he was before Salford) with Watson will very soon start to pay dividends for the Giants.

I was just reading that according to Chester we have a game plan which he works on studiously, this sometimes impacts his sleep. I can only assume that he must also dream that he passes this onto the team because they appear not to have one when they get on the pitch.
I am not on Facebook so don’t know what was posted but you can only revisit this trough so many times. He does like to play the victim but his job is to produce a winning team for which he is being paid. If he fails he can leave but the supporters must carry on and live with what he leaves behind. He admits he doesn’t know what he would have done without the support of Carter and his own family but as per usual no mention of how we the supporters feel having to endure a constant stream of subpar performances.
The bottom line is he takes no responsibility for the performances and I doubt he ever will, if we are relegated I am sure he will claim to have done everything possible but we just did it tough.
It is time for the club to tell him to move on and do his job and if he can’t then move over and let someone else have a go.