I can only look in envy at the amount of young (under 25) English kids Cas puts out every week, no they arnt going to win anything, but That Clarky at hooker is simply sensational, and IMHO there is only Roby infront of him at 9 in SL. Johnny Walker another 21 year old prop, outstanding, and as for Owen being finished, not on last nights performance, all our over seas players dont give a to55 about derby games, its just another game, but we all know its far from that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think there was only a select few players for us that came out of that game last night with their head held high....

1 - Fox for me MOM by a country mile. Our forwards could learn a lot from him re effort and commitment re taking the team/ball forward. He got through a ton of work again. Respect to the Fox!

2 - Cockayne, Aiton, Sykes & Washbrook - All tried hard and work their socks off.

The rest for me were poor to say the least

Time for change, get Walshaw in for Mellars and getting Ellis involved would be a good start. Wood also needs more game time

The pass which lead to the Fox try was majestic!

However The try he let in 2nd half by shooting out was not

I'll say this, patience is a virtue often rewarded!

Keep the faith and don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Better times are ahead both in the short and long term.

Pray do tell us upon what the basis is for said optimism.

It's a bit early for drinking Clan

Long term maybe, but in the short term I see nothing but more of the same i'm afraid. And that will be painful to watch.

Agree with /\ /\ /\ that.
Plus - no on field leader
- bizarre subs (ie - 1 of the subs sits on the bench for over an hour, & the club captain spends more time sat on it than on the field)

There has been no intensity, pride or passion for the last 2 games. Looks like another long and frustrating season.

The "I see" bit is the crux of it though isn't it?

I do not want to come across as one of the I know and you don't posters that frequent these boards but in this instance I do see and I do know!

We are better than we are showing, Richard Agar is better than most think and things will be better in the short but most definitely in the long term.

Please don't fall for the vitriolic claptrap that propagates the posts of some individuals who threaten to derail or sour what will turn out to be a very positive period for Wakefield Trinity. The days following performances like London and Cas offer them the perfect opportunity to take advantage of our disappointment and they provide their own answers to the questions we inevitably and understandably ask' but they're wrong!

Alright what are we good at?
What are we trying to achieve?
What has improved due to Agar's influence?

Agreed. But what has changed in the last couple of weeks? We wasn't playing that well prior to Warrington away but the effort was there. Now since the Catalans win we seem to have given up. Worrying times.

At the moment there are far more problems and questions than there are solutions and answers.

See under 20's are winning 38-4, might have to consider going to watch them each week and give the first team games a miss!