Other teams do have the same problem. And the teams who have the problem generally get beaten, just like us.

Quote ="TheDreadnought"Carter's message on the recent interview sums this up perfectly, we need to give the club some leeway at this time. A number of people on here are way too caught up on sacking Chester but there is literally nothing that he or Michael can do when almost half of your matchday squad is stood down the day before a match!'" Interview with Carter and Chezzy here... https://trinity.mysportsonline.uk/

Quote ="TheDreadnought"Carter's message on the recent interview sums this up perfectly, we need to give the club some leeway at this time. A number of people on here are way too caught up on sacking Chester but there is literally nothing that he or Michael can do when almost half of your matchday squad is stood down the day before a match!'" Interview with Carter and Chezzy here... https://trinity.mysportsonline.uk/

Quote ="FIL"Interview with Carter and Chezzy here... https://trinity.mysportsonline.uk/'" I've just listened to that FIL, and despite all the comments made on here, I think under the present circumstances, I'm prepared to cut both CC and MC some slack. I honestly don't think now is the time to get rid of CC (even if we could afford to!) and as for MC ditching the club, I just see a man who is committed to the cause. This season is write a off. This year is a write off for many things other than rugby ,it's unprecedented but it's real, and eventually we'll get through it. I hurt as much as anybody when we lose the way we have been doing but what we really don't is how many of the players on the pitch should be playing at all? I'll buy my season ticket for next year and I look forward to next season and better times.

Quote ="FIL"Interview with Carter and Chezzy here... https://trinity.mysportsonline.uk/'" I've just listened to that FIL, and despite all the comments made on here, I think under the present circumstances, I'm prepared to cut both CC and MC some slack. I honestly don't think now is the time to get rid of CC (even if we could afford to!) and as for MC ditching the club, I just see a man who is committed to the cause. This season is write a off. This year is a write off for many things other than rugby ,it's unprecedented but it's real, and eventually we'll get through it. I hurt as much as anybody when we lose the way we have been doing but what we really don't is how many of the players on the pitch should be playing at all? I'll buy my season ticket for next year and I look forward to next season and better times.

Absolutely

What about the games before the lockdown what’s the excuse for those performances. It is clearly an attempt to circle the wagons around his friend Chester blaming those supporters who are not willing to go along with the mediocrity of the last 12 months. They want our money but not our opinions unless they are the same as the club’s. What do we know about rugby despite many of us supporting Wakefield for more years than we like to remember.
I think we know an underperforming team with no game plan or fitness when we see them, at least give us some credit.

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I get it SP, I'm as bewildered as you are about some of our play, our lack of fitness and game plan - but yet the signings, until recently seemed sound, and I was really hoping for better things this season- BUT- things have gone pear shaped. We're struggling, no doubt about it .blame what you want, bad coaching, lack of fitness, bad selection and poor player attitude. I've seen many coaches at Wakefield in my 60 plus years and some bring success, but sadly most don't. I think it's a mixed bag of causes . MC could sack CC if you think that will make a difference personally I think there's a lot more to it., for now anyway.

All of those things you've highlighted are the responsibility of the coach though, and so far, Chester has shown he has no understanding of how to rectify the situation he has got himself into.

Yet the "We" that Scarlet refers to as the fans who know better because we have watched for ages actually all have different solutions so 'clearly' it isn't that simple.

I'd also say if watching Wakefield over the past 40 odd years makes me an expert, I should also be a top criminal investigator, be able to do some pretty neat surgery, understand how Warp speed works and understand how to chat up pretty women just by saying 'How You doin' ".
My life just got a lot better realising that. Thanks.

We agree on that much. The level of alleged expertise on this forum is quite staggering. They remind me of Piers Morgan who becomes an expert on everything simply by casting his gave upon it.

You forgot to mention your new found ability to cope with the pandemic, another subject to which this forum seems to have unlimited knowledge of.

Thus I proclaim you Dr Poptart.

Of course they are EB, but I cannot think for a minute that there isn't a game plan ? do the players stick to it on the field?
Are some of the players not playing to the plan because they shouldn't be on the field in the first place?
You say he got himself into that situation, but he hasn't has he, the injuries and Covid are beyond his control.
If these were normal times and we had relatively few injuries I'd look differently. I wish Willie Poching was here now because, clearly, from the interview, I saw a coach who needs some help but first and foremost we need a full squad of fit players who want to play for WT.

I agree, he's just making excuses now. Anyone can see that if he just put some effort into going out and developing a cure for Covid we'd be tons better off. What rugby coach worth his salt couldn't do that in a couple of days???




Just to be clear, I might be being a tiny bit sarcastic!!

Anyone with any knowledge knows there is something fundamentally wrong within the team, you can make excuses as much as you like but 5/31 and a 15 per cent win ratio says different. For goodness sake wake up if the fans can see it ex players can see it ex coaches can see it why can’t the management. If you think Sam Williams or Drinkwater are going to make a difference your mistaken. The whole set up needs sorting, the fitness, the shape, the structure, the game plan which as been worked out but above all we need a pack of forwards to at least get parity with the opposition. we’re on the slippery slope and unless things change we’ve had it.

I'm not saying that I think Chester is blameless, clearly there are things that should be within his control to change, however to lay the blame for everything at his door is just ridiculous.
Having half of your team taken away from you midweek is hardly something that you can prepare for.

I dont disagree with you other than, having an on field organiser who is setting up plays and communication to the players where he wants them has been lacking (badly) for a couple of seasons.
Brough could do the job but was knocking on a bit and injured for most of the time he as here and every other HB that we've had have been support players, not organisers.
There does look to be a total lack of structure and at times a total lack of desire in defence.

There is no doubt that life is nigh on impossible at the moment, with the effects of covid.
Mind you, we weren't that great last season so, some of the excuses dont quite work.

What is fundamentally wrong this team? That's easy.

Injuries
Covid
Playing away every game
No organiser

I appreciate some watching from the sideline want to point at Chester but you are just missing the obvious.

........but yet last week we picked the same 17 as the previous game, we had more time to prepare than the opposition who were playing their 3rd game in 8 days, and we were truly awful, again?! The other week Leeds lost 6 players from their 17, 24 hours before they were due to play, yet they won. Hull put in a creditable performance last night only finding out they were actually playing at all less than 24 hours before the fixture was due to take place?! Too much self pity for me, let's not forget it was Chester himself who said we were rubbish, but yet when fans criticise then the chairman has a pop?!

And some just don’t want to see the obvious.

brough would of done a job if we could of got him in the correct areas to put his little kicks into play. If the forward issue is not addressed then you can put me, wally Lewis or Santa Claus there it won’t matter one bit. Drinkwater and Maloney last few week apart from playing against us have been non existent behind a beaten pack.

You can preach the club line as much as you like but 5/31 says it all, if all the issues I mentioned earlier are not addressed then believe me eventually it will bite us.

So when we win in a few hours given what you have said, it will be freedom of the city for Chris eh?!?! Come on boys, I know you can do it!!!

This is the one where Chester is to blame IMHO.

He has clearly stated that he thinks Jowitt could be an H/B and that Baily is a future SL H/B. Yet his deeds have not even come close to matching his deeds. Rocky should be F/B, his best position. Bailey and Jowitt should be playing alongside Miller, Bailey to start, Jowitt from the Bench where he can cover FB and all the backline. Crowther as back up S/R or Hooker. The two Wood's to alternate per game.

Under normal circumstances, CC couldn't do this but with no relegation he can, he just seems to lack the guts and imagination and I think it is this as much as the results that baffle most fans. Can anyone really argue that Chester has given either Jowitt or Bailey a real go? Idon't and when you consider how many second chances Miller has recieved whilst we still wait for anything close to a good game from Gigot it truly disheartening.

Being experimental for the long term but losing is nowhere near as soul-destroying as seeing a load of players at the butt end of their careers continually getting picked and continually not doing any better. That's how I see it.

It absolutely does say it all. It says the team we are putting out on the field isn't good enough to win, for all those reasons above.

Except those players haven't always been available together.

Yes, you can tell because that's why they are in the top 4.

That's presuming all of these players are still in the ring when the game starts