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| The club can't win with the 'excited' bunch. He stays and we are wasting a wage. He goes and the club had acted hastily. Players as PB is using to his/her advantage, is totally different and they know it! See Miller last season as exhibit 1. There are many examples to smack the club with, this isn't one and by using it as so, you ate losing your argument. The clubs a mess, an intelligent person picks the right fight!
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| Quote ="1315trinity"What’s your point?
Would it have been better if the club had said ‘that’s fine go next season we’ll look after you till then!’
What exact did you want the club to say?'"
The nonsense part is that he was supposed to start in 2024 but all of a sudden Fev suddenly had the capacity to bring him in early, and that despite Trinity knowing, didn't have any time to prepare for his leaving.
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| Quote ="burtonsrlfc"The club can't win with the 'excited' bunch. He stays and we are wasting a wage. He goes and the club had acted hastily. Players as PB is using to his/her advantage, is totally different and they know it! See Miller last season as exhibit 1. There are many examples to smack the club with, this isn't one and by using it as so, you ate losing your argument. The clubs a mess, an intelligent person picks the right fight!'"
The club is a mess and a coach jumping ship with immediate effect is a symptom of the mess.
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| There is no evidence of anything you are saying Egg. You are just making things up to fit your conclusion.
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| Quote ="PopTart"There is no evidence of anything you are saying Egg. You are just making things up to fit your conclusion.'"
Other than Fev somehow managed to instantly find the money to appoint him immediately instead of in 2024 as had been initially planned and agreed....
Which seems more plausible:
a coach tells the current club that he is leaving with immediate effect to take up a new post in a club which has funded it leaving the existing club without a plan to replace him
Or the coach tells his current club that he is leaving at the end of the season and they instead dismiss him immediately, and then wait 24 hours before announcing that he had gone but that they hadn't got a plan to replace him, and that somehow the club he was going to also managed to fund his new post immediately and also announce it.
I know you like to look at everything through your rose tinted glasses, but objectively, Trinity have been caught out by something and then flailed around for a day before trying to pretend it was all their doing in the first place.
If you read yesterday's announcement from Featherstone it is clear that they had a vision of him coming into them this season as it talks a lot about him supporting them in their drive for promotion
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| As in a top 5 place like we got told when W Poaching went
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"Other than Fev somehow managed to instantly find the money to appoint him immediately instead of in 2024 as had been initially planned and agreed....
Which seems more plausible:
a coach tells the current club that he is leaving with immediate effect to take up a new post in a club which has funded it leaving the existing club without a plan to replace him
Or the coach tells his current club that he is leaving at the end of the season and they instead dismiss him immediately, and then wait 24 hours before announcing that he had gone but that they hadn't got a plan to replace him, and that somehow the club he was going to also managed to fund his new post immediately and also announce it.
I know you like to look at everything through your rose tinted glasses, but objectively, Trinity have been caught out by something and then flailed around for a day before trying to pretend it was all their doing in the first place.
If you read yesterday's announcement from Featherstone it is clear that they had a vision of him coming into them this season as it talks a lot about him supporting them in their drive for promotion'"
You can draw whatever conclusion you like. I'm confident it happened exactly like the press release said.
Mine is based on evidence. Yours is based in a conspiracy theory.
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| Big question is, who comes in as replacement?
I'll admit I don't know who else is on the coaching staff, I think Pitts is the academy coach?
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| Quote ="charlie"Big question is, who comes in as replacement?
I'll admit I don't know who else is on the coaching staff, I think Pitts is the academy coach?'"
Probably Matt Nicholson, the head of youth, will step up.
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| Strange how only a month or so ago Mark Cambell their chairman warned that if crowds didn’t improve he would pull funding and also had a dig at fans for drinking in a local pub instead of the ground and that money generated doesn’t come close to matching their wage bill
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| Quote ="burtonsrlfc"The club can't win with the 'excited' bunch. He stays and we are wasting a wage. He goes and the club had acted hastily. Players as PB is using to his/her advantage, is totally different and they know it! See Miller last season as exhibit 1. There are many examples to smack the club with, this isn't one and by using it as so, you ate losing your argument. The clubs a mess, an intelligent person picks the right fight!'"
I have to agree with this, the club have made some terrible decisions this season but this isn't one
of them!
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| Quote ="PopTart"You can draw whatever conclusion you like. I'm confident it happened exactly like the press release said.
Mine is based on evidence. Yours is based in a conspiracy theory.'"
Even if the Trinity press release is true (it isn't), it just shows yet again how utterly incompetent our leadership is. A complete lack of succession planning is how we ended up with Applegarth, and they've still not learned.
Not to mention that they were supposed to be improving fan engagement to meet IMG criteria - but decided to stay silent for 24 hours so they could create a story about how a coach left
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"Even if the Trinity press release is true (it isn't), it just shows yet again how utterly incompetent our leadership is. A complete lack of succession planning is how we ended up with Applegarth, and they've still not learned.
Not to mention that they were supposed to be improving fan engagement to meet IMG criteria - but decided to stay silent for 24 hours so they could create a story about how a coach left'"
You can believe what you want. But you are wrong.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You can believe what you want. But you are wrong.'"
Odd, because I've just been chatting to somebody in the know at Fev who said I was pretty much spot on. So who to believe, a club looking to save face or a club with nothing to prove about it?
What is poor form is that he was having this discussion with Fev while telling the wakey fans that we were all in this together at the fan forum
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"Odd, because I've just been chatting to somebody in the know at Fev who said I was pretty much spot on. So who to believe, a club looking to save face or a club with nothing to prove about it?
What is poor form is that he was having this discussion with Fev while telling the wakey fans that we were all in this together at the fan forum'"
So I know for a fact you just made that up.
Keep digging
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| Fev will be taking a leaf out of Leigh’s book here, albeit a little late in the day - Ford will be on a recruitment drive to get players in place for SL next season, more players may or may not come in this season but they see themselves as pretty much certs to go up, and like Chester at Leigh Ford will now have the scope to do that and leave Long to concentrate on the coaching
Highly unlikely Fev only wanted him at the end of the season as the work has to be done way before then, in fact even now is on the brink of being to late
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| Quote ="PopTart"So I know for a fact you just made that up.
Keep digging'"
Do you really, or are you just being like Carter and trying to save face when you've been caught out by events
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| Quote ="ColD"Fev will be taking a leaf out of Leigh’s book here, albeit a little late in the day - Ford will be on a recruitment drive to get players in place for SL next season, more players may or may not come in this season but they see themselves as pretty much certs to go up, and like Chester at Leigh Ford will now have the scope to do that and leave Long to concentrate on the coaching
Highly unlikely Fev only wanted him at the end of the season as the work has to be done way before then, in fact even now is on the brink of being to late'"
Fev wanted him immediately, they've been on the look out for a DoR since the start of the season, but ramped up efforts in recent weeks as it looked more and more likely they would be promoted.
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"Do you really, or are you just being like Carter and trying to save face when you've been caught out by events'"
Nope. I know for a fact.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Nope. I know for a fact.'"
Just remember if you heard it from a club official then its just that person's take on proceedings and not fact.
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| Quote ="marc271841"Just remember if you heard it from a club official then its just that person's take on proceedings and not fact.'"
Surely youd agree the officials at Fev and Trinity and Ford are actually doing the deal. So they surely know the facts more than Egg's imaginary friend.
And I'm not trying to convince anyone. The announcement says everything that needs to be said.
But I'm confident that what Egg says isn't true.
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| Quote ="phe13"Club statement here:
'Following the press release from Featherstone Rovers yesterday, Wakefield Trinity can confirm that James Ford has left his position as Assistant First Team Coach.
The club very recently became aware that James had agreed to join Featherstone Rovers for the 2024 season and after considering all the circumstances, we have agreed with James that he should leave with immediate effect. Wakefield Trinity naturally wishes to thank James for the hard work and enthusiasm he has brought to his role and wish him well in the future.
Options within our coaching team are being considered and further announcements will follow as and when any decisions are made.''"
MC only wrote this because the bloke on RWAB called him out on it. The first line is a classic MC dig (suggesting that things were behind his back); using the word "naturally" to condition the giving of praise and thanks is condescending, and the trailing comment about further announcements just says that they aren't doing anything about it.
PT flame me as you see fit, but this is how I see it. MC is peed off because he was called out on it, and clearly there is some frost between Ford and the Club. How dare he get another job and not tell them. Even though he doesn't have a contract at Trin for 2024.
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| Quote ="charlie"Does the same apply to CEO's who announce they're leaving?!
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Touche
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| Am i missing something here? Fordy was out of contract at the end of the year and has moved to secure his future and gain a promotion at the same time. No problem there. He was willing to see out his contract and move at the end of the season. Featherstone would have liked him to start straight away but were willing to wait. Wakey have said ok you can go now then and we’ll move on. Job done, move on.
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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"MC only wrote this because the bloke on RWAB called him out on it. The first line is a classic MC dig (suggesting that things were behind his back); using the word "naturally" to condition the giving of praise and thanks is condescending, and the trailing comment about further announcements just says that they aren't doing anything about it.
PT flame me as you see fit, but this is how I see it. MC is peed off because he was called out on it, and clearly there is some frost between Ford and the Club. How dare he get another job and not tell them. Even though he doesn't have a contract at Trin for 2024.'"
You get all that from the small announcement by the club?
I don't see how you think MC is being called out on it.
As far as I know, you are not even close on any of that. But it doesn't change the facts either way.
Personally, in any business. If someone gets another job with a rival (at leat an IMG rival) you are better letting them go than keeping them while they have eyes elsewhere.
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