As said effort superb but too many mistakes at crucial times led to a Leeds win.



Last kick plays to BJB or Ryan Hall

think kicking it dead and setting defence up would be a better option against a world class Leeds back line who have serious pace also thought this would have been discussed?

As said last year in discussions we lack pace in our backs which is why we bought Lynne but then tried to turn him into a centre which hasn't worked out.

Wildie should have been on bench and brought him on for last 20 at dummy half moving Aiton to loose. Wildie has a kicking and passing game also taking a little pressure off both Smiths.He's also got some pace which could have troubled a tiring Leeds defence.

I hope Tautai calms down a little and doesn't continue to make as many mistakes as some last night led to a try and in part cost the game. Other School boy errors like kicking out on full by Lee Smith from kick off shouldn't happen at this level, should have gone short.

Ah, the beauty of another angle. I didn't see that from where I was stood. I'll give him a bit of slack then.



That's why I came away the most frustrated from a game in a while. We clearly haven't learned from the numerous times in the last couple of games we've conceded to Leeds from kick returns on their own line. It happened twice last year at Headingley with Hardaker and BJB, and it cost us in that game. Their running in broken play compared to ours is, in my opinion, the main difference between the two teams. Despite our errors at crucial times, if it weren't for that BJB length of the field try I think we would have won.

Absolutely bang on.
Not using all 17 on a hot evening is bonkers and there was a definite holding back incident on Smith.
Yet again the ref made some poor, poor decisions but, ultimately we couldn't capitalise on the pressure that we had.

Have to agree.....Wildie should have been 18th man and not Lyne...okay you can't legislate for Kirmond having an adverse reaction to a painkilling injection, as has been reported this morning, but what is the point having someone sitting on the bench for 80 minutes





Tautai was trying too hard IMHO...perhaps he wanted to make an impact on his first game back, and it just didn't happen for him, but I believe he is a class act and will set up some tries for us in the not-too-distant future !!

Lee Smith kicking out on the full WAS a schoolboy error, but what was equally frustrating was that he had previously done a superb kick off (when Leeds had just gone back in front), and managed to kick it into touch Danny Brough style, but then on the following kick off just punts it up in the air, for Leeds to catch, and as for him being "taken out" on the grubber kick to the line, don't get me started on that one... he runs into the defender every time then falls on the floor like he's been shot, well I'm sorry Lee, most refs are wise to that one !!!

All that being said, I thought it was a superb effort from the boys, and was the most entertaining game I have seen from them this season...keep up the good work..

We had 4 sets of 6 in a spell in the first half and came away with nothing. Leeds would have ground down the opposition with that much ball. We came back up the field and instead of dropping a goal, Tim puts grubber through, BJB goes the length of the field and instead of 7 points up and ball back, it's all square with defending to do against a Champion team with their tails up. On the other thread about last Fridays game, mentioned that Leeds have a knack of pulling a rabbit out of the hat when it matters. Unfortunately the assistant aiding them last night, was Wakey.

Showed our limitations last night I'm afraid - no complaints at all about the effort, but our squad is paper thin and some of our players lack the ability to make the right decisions in a tight situation; our game management is haphazard and we don't have the ability to win when a game becomes an arm-wrestle. The only way to fix that is with recruitment, and I'd say a quality 6 should be top of the shopping list. I'd also suggest that we're short at least one pacey winger - if the rumours linking us to Adam Swift have any basis in reality, that could be a decent straight replacement for Foxy.

On the positive side, our forwards once again out-muscled the Champions, with Amor, Poore and Raleigh dominating the Leeds pack. I also thought Aiton played a bit more freely and as a result, made us more unpredictable from DH - if he continues to play like that, he could be a force next season.

Overall, I'd suggest that Agar has wrung about as much as he can from this group of players; this off-season is crucial in terms of trimming some dead wood and bringing in two or three key individuals to take WTW to the next level.

do you mean that kid on debut that scored.

I don`t think Wakefield are that far off a top 6 side or at the very least a top 8.
You are lacking a shrewd half back someone like Briers who would have done a job for a year.
A decent fullback who can run the ball back and chime into the line and a decent centre.
Your forwards when fit are a match for most SL teams and certainly seem to have the beating of our pack every time we play you.
How on earth we let Amor go and keep the likes of Kirke god only knows.
Good to see the Leeds old boys Mathers and Smith help us again just like Fox and Smith the week before

Is that what happened? Can't see the tryline from the North Stand so had no idea what happened with any of the tries or action at that end. Also see what everybody means about the PA system in there. Could hardly hear a thing from it, even when the crowd was quiet.

Yes - that's exactly what happened.

They had 4 sets in the first 3 or 4 minutes of the game.....18 consecutive tackles if I remember correctly.....they also forced us to drop out 3 times in the first half.....they had plenty of possession in good position but for the most part our defence was very good.....

Looking at their tries......they scored 2 from poor passes....both may even have been marginal forward.....poor passes anyway in the fact that they hit the floor before being picked up......a length of the field breakaway when we were pressing.....not the first time it's happened either!!

Then there was the farce try from Ablett which definitely shouldn't have been a try.....definitely offside and tackled Smith without the ball....high aswell.......

Rob Burrow's try was irrelevant really....

We scored 3 well executed/taken tries and one soft one.....we were the better side on the nigh and should have won

Should have could have story of Agars rain I'm afraid.
Superb effort by the players and fans.
It's just not enough to take the points.
We should have taken 4 points from the 2 games and came away with nought!
Credit to Leeds they know how to win games.

Can I sniff another Agar out bandwagon approaching? He's brought young players through and is developing them as quick as he is able, the team is doing ok and if not for a few individual errors could be comfortably inside the 8. He has brought in some fantastic over seas players and British ones and has them playing entertaining stuff. He has been no where near the liability we were told he would be by every man and his dog in Hull. The players obviously like him and enjoy the environment he has cultivated, why would players sign up for long term deal if they felt he was ? Some people have short memories from where he has brought this team to. I'm saying he's done a good job, it's not perfect but he's done outstanding with the resources he has. Keep it up RA.

I agree Mable the true barometer is the fact that experienced players have resigned and as you say that means they rate the guy.
We are not far off.
As we all know that means a half back to compliment Tim.
Sykes still valuable re. goal kicking and utility ability.
Plus a powerful, fast outside back.
Anything else a bonus.

Not a fan of Agar but he's got the team to be where I just about expected. He doesn't help himself with bizarre selections like Lyne on the bench and not using him.

Definitely Ablett offside as shown on the highlights and 2 Leeds forward passes for 2 tries in the second half - don't know what the 'officials' were watching, perhaps the Dolls

Don't know about that but picking Lyne and then not playing him makes a bit of a muppet.

Matty Wildie is fully fit and ready to play, now none of us are SL coaches but what option would you have plunged for last night.

If Wildie wasn't in the 18 getting warmed up I fail to see what other option he could have used when Kirmond pulled out with 2 minutes to go. This obviously wasn't in a game plan and hindsight is a wonderful thing. Thak god he didn't utilise him at hooker or anywhere else he has never played or it really would have been exploited. I think we can agree that the coach, knowing a win puts us in the 8, Didn't pick Lyne knowing he wouldn't play him.

Problem was Al we only had 18 men doing the warm up (we had 19 at Leeds)

Kirmo pulls out so Agar has no where else to go. I am sure if Wildie or another forward had warmed up then
Lyne would not have played.

However you could also argue, why not warm up your full 19 man compliment ?

I assume Lyne was in as extra man in case Collis had a problem. He was obviously not 100%.
The fact that Kirmond dropped out was obviously not planned so he suddenly had a problem with subs forced on him.

Personally, I'd have done exactly what he did. If he'd put him on it would have disrupted the forwards and put a big hole in our defence.
It nearly worked.

Agree with all of that and we are so near to making the next step. It would be such a shame if our financial problems prevent us doing this as we are so close. It is also frustrating how much we are paying Mellars , and if only we had his wage to use paying towards a decent stand off.

It nearly worked sums up last nights game, however running with 16 players in scorching temps is utter madness, how that came about is open to debate but its Agars job to bring a squad to the field and he failed last night.

Don't think Matty is very happy tbh, still when he leaves it'll be of is own choosing no doubt, thats how it works i believe.

Having encountered the attittude of many wakefield fans, one get's the impression they feel they are the best team around, constantly held back by the referee screwing them over.

Never in the history of mankind have so many chips, of such an enormous size, rested on so few shoulders.

Really? You ought to visit every sinlge RL club then, Trinity supporters are no different.

No. You are alot worse. Trin fans have taken the time to make numerous vids on youtube highlighting how leeds have apparently cheated.

Every single **edited ... try posting without swearing, there's a good chap** time we play you the ref has screwed you over. We don't get this from any other fans.