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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Personally, despite your concerns, I'm more concerned with the US president, who, IMO is an altogether more dangerous and powerful person.
At some point his negotiation style with some of the more volatile world leaders will land all of us in much deeper water.'"
Oh I agree with you there. You might find this hard to believe but I stay well away from Trump related news  . It's so toxic, even for me.
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| Quote Miro="Miro"Oh I agree with you there. You might find this hard to believe but I stay well away from Trump related news
. It's so toxic, even for me.'"
Like you, he was in denial about the "China virus" and is reluctant to wear a mask and ended up with a dose of the virus (allegedly)
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Yes, "re branded" as a circuit breaker to differentiate from a lockdown with no defined end ?
It doesn't matter what it's called and it may not even happen, despite the pressure that Bojo is under.
The simple issue with face coverings is that if, by wearing one, you can prevent someone else catching the virus, why wouldn't you wear one ?
Are you THAT selfish or, have YOU decided that YOU know better than everyone else.
If you look hard enough there will be plusses and minuses for every action that you take (and not just in relation to covid)
Your choice.'"
I know more than your chums at the BBC or the rest of the lamestream media. Keep wearing your tinfoil face mask if you "believe" it offers protection. I'll stick with carrying my lucky rabbit's foot, it's not failed me so far. In fact the evidence based science behind it is about as strong as a face nappy. I actually "believe" it's protected me during this whole pandemic so it must be true. I'm thinking about contacting our local MP to start lobbying parliament for a national lucky rabbit's foot mandate. If carrying one helps a little bit then I'm sure it's worth it. I might even start going to church on a Sunday and holding a prayer, again it's worth a try if it helps.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Like you, he was in denial about the "China virus" and is reluctant to wear a mask and ended up with a dose of the virus (allegedly)'"
Not in denial about the “Chins virus”. But, is this the one where 99.9% of the world will not be adversely affected by “it” but 99.9% of the world will have to suffer the consequences of the powers that be kak handed handling of “it.”?
Oh sorry, I say “kak handed” when actually, as far as the PTB are concerned it's all going fine and dandy.
I may yet need convincing that the “virus, agenda 30 and event 201 are simply entirely coincidental.
Yes, I've revived my estimate of 99.7% due to the admition from the main steam media,doctors and PTB from of them "lying" about the figures.
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Quote Miro="Miro"Not in denial about the “Chins virus”. But, is this the one where 99.9% of the world will not be adversely affected by “it” but 99.9% of the world will have to suffer the consequences of the powers that be kak handed handling of “it.”?
Oh sorry, I say “kak handed” when actually, as far as the PTB are concerned it's all going fine and dandy.
I may yet need convincing that the “virus, agenda 30 and event 201 are simply entirely coincidental.'"
Closer to 99.77% but still I get your point. All this hysteria to force us down a path of the "new normal". A decision that no one voted for, so much for fighting in WW2.
BTW it looks like your story regarding your friends kit containing two tests; one used is true!
Used coronavirus tests handed out by mistake in Birmingham
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... m-54539328
What an utter shambles.
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Oh sorry, I say “kak handed” when actually, as far as the PTB are concerned it's all going fine and dandy.
I may yet need convincing that the “virus, agenda 30 and event 201 are simply entirely coincidental.'"
Closer to 99.77% but still I get your point. All this hysteria to force us down a path of the "new normal". A decision that no one voted for, so much for fighting in WW2.
BTW it looks like your story regarding your friends kit containing two tests; one used is true!
Used coronavirus tests handed out by mistake in Birmingham
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... m-54539328
What an utter shambles.
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Thanks for that. The BBC hmm, the cracks in the charade are truly beginning to show. But the people are in total denial so what can you do ?
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Thanks for that. The BBC hmm, the cracks in the charade are truly beginning to show. But the people are in total denial so what can you do ?
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| Quote MatthewTrin="MatthewTrin"I know more than your chums at the BBC or the rest of the lamestream media. Keep wearing your tinfoil face mask if you "believe" it offers protection. I'll stick with carrying my lucky rabbit's foot, it's not failed me so far. In fact the evidence based science behind it is about as strong as a face nappy. I actually "believe" it's protected me during this whole pandemic so it must be true. I'm thinking about contacting our local MP to start lobbying parliament for a national lucky rabbit's foot mandate. If carrying one helps a little bit then I'm sure it's worth it. I might even start going to church on a Sunday and holding a prayer, again it's worth a try if it helps.'"
I love the derision of the mainstream media, usually when they dont say something that you agree with.
Compare them to the on line "hot beds" of lies and propaganda, which is usually even less well balanced.
I am aware that the MSM will toe the party line for certain issues. However, on balance, they remain significantly more reliable than many agenda driven media outlets and they are, in theory, accountable.
Like you, my lucky rabbits foot has served me well since birth.
Mind you, I'm up to date with all my jabs and have always trusted the medics vs on line output, when I've needed, which, thankfully, has been very infrequently.
I'll certainly go with the NHS and their staff over ALL of the links on this thread, even though, as human beings, they do occasionally make mistakes , as we all do.
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| Quote Miro="Miro"Thanks for that. The BBC hmm, the cracks in the charade are truly beginning to show. But the people are in total denial so what can you do ?'"
Spread the word in a polite manner, you've got to be tactical about exposing this fraud. Acknowledge the virus but offer ideas showing the open deceit from people/groups with a vested interest in spreading hysteria. If someone is open to hearing about the facts on the severity of the virus get them to watch Ivor Cummuns on YT, this guy knows his stuff. Don't get in confrontation with anyone especially in person as people will get very defensive if they think their being challenged. It's like an election, political leaders target swing voters. These are groups of people with an open mind to listen to ideas that can be reasoned with. These are the people we need to target those that are open to listening to alternative views on the pandemic. Facts and truth always come out in the end, this is what we need to harness people towards us. If only we could bring down the BBC & Sly News. I think this is where we are losing this battle at the moment, through messaging and narrative. I've heard Nigel Farage is starting up a News channel on TV next year, hopefully this can be used as the catalyst to bring about our shared views and facts into the mass public debate. Once we get over the tipping point, their agenda will collapse like a pack of dominoes and the herd will all follow us.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"I love the derision of the mainstream media, usually when they dont say something that you agree with.
Compare them to the on line "hot beds" of lies and propaganda, which is usually even less well balanced.
I am aware that the MSM will toe the party line for certain issues. However, on balance, they remain significantly more reliable than many agenda driven media outlets and they are, in theory, accountable.
Like you, my lucky rabbits foot has served me well since birth.
Mind you, I'm up to date with all my jabs and have always trusted the medics vs on line output, when I've needed, which, thankfully, has been very infrequently.
I'll certainly go with the NHS and their staff over ALL of the links on this thread, even though, as human beings, they do occasionally make mistakes , as we all do.'"
Problem is the medical community don't unanimously agree. I trust my own "critical thinking" of medical information and government sources over all types of media - both mainstream and online alternative.
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| Quote MatthewTrin="MatthewTrin"Spread the word in a polite manner, you've got to be tactical about exposing this fraud. Acknowledge the virus but offer ideas showing the open deceit from people/groups with a vested interest in spreading hysteria. If someone is open to hearing about the facts on the severity of the virus get them to watch Ivor Cummuns on YT, this guy knows his stuff. Don't get in confrontation with anyone especially in person as people will get very defensive if they think their being challenged. It's like an election, political leaders target swing voters. These are groups of people with an open mind to listen to ideas that can be reasoned with. These are the people we need to target those that are open to listening to alternative views on the pandemic. Facts and truth always come out in the end, this is what we need to harness people towards us. If only we could bring down the BBC & Sly News. I think this is where we are losing this battle at the moment, through messaging and narrative. I've heard Nigel Farage is starting up a News channel on TV next year, hopefully this can be used as the catalyst to bring about our shared views and facts into the mass public debate. Once we get over the tipping point, their agenda will collapse like a pack of dominoes and the herd will all follow us.'"
Is this taken from the "conspiracy manual" ?
Please tell us (me and anyone else who doesn't go with your view) just who has the vested interest in just about every economy on the planet "tanking" $billions.
As I've mentioned before, I do like a good conspiracy theory and some of you have spent a great deal of time and effort but, who are the "goodies" and who are the "baddies" here ?
Bill Gates has been painted as a bad guy but, despite his significant wealth, i dont see that.
So, who else should we try and avoid. ?
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Really ?
Do you avoid the doctors or hospital and refuse the drugs etc or is it just this particular virus ?
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Actually, I meant certain people on here are in "total denial" but your right about being polite. It's not too hard actually. A 75 plus couple came in today, while they were waiting for me to open up they stood, masks in hand. It was obvious they didn't want to put the masks on so I said "no need to put those on on my account" and immediately they looked relieved and pocketed them.
We got talking and both commented upon how ridiculace the whole situation was and gave a few anecdotes that left them shaking their heads. Only when I offered the information that this, in my opinion, is a charade that has nothing to do with our safety did they knda go quiet. Well, the lady did but he nodded in agreement.
Past that I don't push it, I let it go. But hopefully a seed has been sown and if they think my way then maybe it gives them confidence to look at things differently, at the very least.
As for me saying "no need to put those on on my account" I think the take up is around 95%
People know somethings not right but they can't quite take the leap past what they are told on the MSM.
By the way, (see previous post) my 75 year old weekly visitor did turn up again yesterday. Fit as a lop.
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