What a silly post, still if that's what you think - I'll carry on posting for those who wish to read them I'm sure I won't be to "bothered" by that , best of luck Bren.

PS: As usual you didn't answer the question just more Bren hot air as usual.

I've made my point fairly clear as long as the club is getting something worthy of the name i am happy with a BV mark 2 job, ideally this is better for me as i prefer going into town for a beer and a curry given the opportunity and going to NM would have been something of a shift in pre/post match activities.
That said for the good of the club i would have made those changes.
I am interested though why you think BV cannot guarantee our future, as (from a personal perspective) i think it is in a far more accesible and popular location, i accept peoples views on BV as an area, but i still think its better than a field/business park outside stanley.
I cant see how you can make this leap without knowing whats on the cards, unless its just a gut feeling.

Ok then....Ding Ding...round 479...bring on the biff..

I just dislike all the big words being used!

I've got no beef with anyone who is happy to accept what's on offer and despite Vasty's faux-exasperation that I'm not getting the point, I am; I realise that it's this or nothing and I can see why some people are happy to go along with that. Fair play - I just don't share that view; I do feel a bit sorry for the June Fenders of this world though, who copped dog's abuse on here for their underhand tactics and manipulation of the legal processes - ironically, they've suffered the same fate.

Personally, I think that the available space and the location of BV mean that whatever you do there, is always limited; it won't attract corporate events, it won't do anything other than RL and it sends a very small-time message to the outside world. And short of buying up the surrounding streets and levelling them, it will always be closed in on 3 sides, plagued by access problems and have a grotty outlook. In my opinion.

Bloody hell I just want the stadium trust to provide a stadium for the City of Wakefield BV or NM whichever happens, we are not trying to save the world.

I sometimes think I'm a small person in the land of sesquipedialian's!

Ditto.

I'm a small cog in the wheel who just wants a RL ground who tried to help a slightly smaller cog who was complaining he wasn't in the loop and bang right back in my face - what is wrong with people! It's just a RL ground at the end of the day not the UN.

I don't see how a redeveloped Belle Vue has any negative impact on Agbrigg. It's the status quo as it has existed for over a hundred years. The only impact can be positive, even if it is something as minor as a smarter looking stadium overlooking their street. Might be some light issues if the East Stand is covered, but beyond that, I can't see any negatives and only the chance for positives.

Taking a step back, Newmarket was successful because of the addition of a community stadium. I'm not sure how the relocation of it has a huge impact, and arguably the people affected locally will be affected less, other than the fact of the development.

I do understand the Trojan Horse argument, but events change over time, I guess.

Don't get me wrong. I'm selfish enough to just take the best for us and have no care about the wider community at all.
I was just talking about the point in general.

I'm not getting you wrong don't worry.

It's quite tricky to give people as much info as you can without compromising the people who gave it you. I have an ego the size of a house but despite what a certain poster thinks on this occasion I'm only trying to help folk understand as much as possible. I know how frustrating half facts can be.

We are at a delicate point in negotiations and it doesn't pay to antagonise anyone. People like Sir Rodney and Colin Mackey (?) don't take criticism well and without them on board the whole thing falls down. If that's pussy footing around YC then so be it - I certainly don't have 8 - 10 million to give away

The idea of a wider redevelopment of the Agbrigg / BV area has already been raised at a number of meetings. I will not take the credit for this, it was the idea of David Hinchliffe. It's very early, but I do think the idea has merit!

Please accept my apologies if this has already been discussed but what is the latest on the lease of Belle Vue? The last I remember reading was the site had been sold by the Bank of Ireland for a housing development and that's why the Newmarket site was required. Has this now changed?

BoI still own BV. There is an approved PP for housing, but tied by a covenant that means it can only be re-developed if WTW have an alternative stadium to move to.

IF we go with the BV option, the ground will need to be bought back from the bank!