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| Quote jack in the box="jack in the box"The administrator takes everything and he would start with their ground.
Best thing they can do is accept their fate and join the championship where they really belong.'"
Wow - you're sooooooo funny !!!! 
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| A rumour doing the rounds suggests Steve Ferres told Cas the only option would be Administration, the BOD declined and Steve walked away.
Make of it what you will.
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| Quote vastman="vastman"Nah, I like Steve but that boat has sailed twice already. Whilst frankly if Elston and Longo don't know their stuff by now they never will, they are not novices anymore. Also I'd suggest AG is far to hands on for SF to cope with.'"
I'd agree. Ferris is good at taking chaos and giving it direction and organisation.
We have needed that in the past but I think we are further on than that.
In terms of running a business AG is far more qualified than Ferris. In terms of running a sporting business, I think we have managed to steer through the early chaotic waters that Ferris would help with and need to continue in that direction. I think Ferris would try and repair old mistakes that have been patched and bypassed.
I'm not that impressed with Fozzard either. Not that I don't like him but I think we should be looking at experienced professionals now rather than rugby players that have learned a trade.
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| Quote kiwiballs="kiwiballs"A rumour doing the rounds suggests Steve Ferres told Cas the only option would be Administration, the BOD declined and Steve walked away.
Make of it what you will.'"
That would explain his reluctance to divulge details of what he asked the BoD to do.
Also would tie in with him trying and seemingly failing to bring in new investment. When Wakey were looking for investment pre-admin the potential investors, including Parkin, would only look at the club following a pre-pack administration as no-one wants to inherit the historical debt of these clubs.
It wouls also tie in with the fact that they still have Dickie Wright as a shareholder and Jack Fulton seemingly wanting his money back out of the club - despite his press release.
I suspect that there is quite a lot to this story and that more pain may be just around the corner. Perhaps the best thing for the club would be to take the pill now and then they just might have time to get the house in order in time for licence application time!
Not good for our neighbours!
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| The only way we could go into Admin would be if our assets were worth less than our current debt - which they are'nt. We cannot sell our major asset (ground) so I would suggest this is'nt what SF was reccommending.
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| Quote Tigerade="Tigerade"The only way we could go into Admin would be if our assets were worth less than our current debt - which they are'nt. We cannot sell our major asset (ground) so I would suggest this is'nt what SF was reccommending.'"
It wouldn't matter if you can't raise the cash - many businesses are technically solvent and trading, but if the banks etc won't support the operation then they go bang.
The alternative is to top up the wage packets each month and keep trading as you are - which is what Ferres clearly didn't want!
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| Agreed - our BOD obviously think there is a better way out. Or as usual are just hoping someone will come in and buy them out.
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| Quote Tigerade="Tigerade"Agreed - our BOD obviously think there is a better way out. Or as usual are just hoping someone will come in and buy them out.'"
I think it's probably more to do with not wanting to walk away with nothing - but that is exactly what they will get if they don't manage to alter the business model substantially in quick time!
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I'd agree. Ferris is good at taking chaos and giving it direction and organisation.
We have needed that in the past but I think we are further on than that.
In terms of running a business AG is far more qualified than Ferris. In terms of running a sporting business, I think we have managed to steer through the early chaotic waters that Ferris would help with and need to continue in that direction. I think Ferris would try and repair old mistakes that have been patched and bypassed.
I'm not that impressed with Fozzard either. Not that I don't like him but I think we should be looking at experienced professionals now rather than rugby players that have learned a trade.'"
Think that it a little harsh on fozzard, I follow him on twitter and his enthiusiasm and passion for what he's doing is to be applauded - he almost had me wanting to buy a Cas membership! (well not quite but you get the idea)
As a mouthpiece from the club to the supporters he has been excellent, especially when you consider the years of virtual silence or cringeworthy soundbites from tricky dicky.
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| If you think of the shifts in club ownership over recent years, do you think maybe Cas are the last of the old guard. There has been a takeover by modern savvy businessmen in recent years, probably started by Steve O'Connor at Widnes. But with us, and then Bradford and Salford, the nature of club owners has changed. Very savvy business brains. There is no reason why Cas are not an attractive proposition. They get good crowds, own their own ground, and should be able to grow the talent rather than buy it in.
The problem is maybe persuading the old boys to step aside and so the club is being held back. I fear for them come franchise time, because they have taken a step back or too since last time, with Glasshoughton seemingly biting the dust.
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| Quote Slugger McBatt="Slugger McBatt"If you think of the shifts in club ownership over recent years, do you think maybe Cas are the last of the old guard. There has been a takeover by modern savvy businessmen in recent years, probably started by Steve O'Connor at Widnes. But with us, and then Bradford and Salford, the nature of club owners has changed. Very savvy business brains. There is no reason why Cas are not an attractive proposition. They get good crowds, own their own ground, and should be able to grow the talent rather than buy it in.
The problem is maybe persuading the old boys to step aside and so the club is being held back. I fear for them come franchise time, because they have taken a step back or too since last time, with Glasshoughton seemingly biting the dust.'"
All fair points sluggger but we won't see another franchise period after this.
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| Quote TrinityIHC="TrinityIHC"Think that it a little harsh on fozzard, I follow him on twitter and his enthiusiasm and passion for what he's doing is to be applauded - he almost had me wanting to buy a Cas membership! (well not quite but you get the idea)
As a mouthpiece from the club to the supporters he has been excellent, especially when you consider the years of virtual silence or cringeworthy soundbites from tricky dicky.'"
I can see what you are saying as I've seen him on there too, and my wording may have been harsher than I intended.
When I say I'm not impressed I equally mean I'm not unimpressed.
BUT, if you worked for a big multinational company, or even West Yorkshire Windows, would you employ him in that role? I think he has done a marketing or business degree (?) which is credit to him but he equally he has gained his experience working at Cas.
I hope he does well in the role he has, and progresses, but just don't think he fits what we are looking for.
Maybe I don't understand the role but to lead something like this I would expect is to be bringing in someone with external experience rather than making a good lad fit a role.
There is a big jump from being a mouth piece cheerleader on Twitter to managing the marketing for a big business.
I'd have thought AG would have a lot of connections in this area so wouldn't need to bring him in.
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