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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Of course he's having a dig. It's one of those snide, below the belt ones, which it's not the first time he's lashed out at fans like this.
Like Mopsey, I can't believe people are still taken in by him. He doesn't pull the wool over my eyes.
He's alienating so many fans right now, I've heard several, long term fans saying they're not going until he's gone, which does nothing to help, but at the same time, neither does his poor attitude to supporters.
I've said it time and time again, no person is bigger than the club, its colours or badge. Not even a self confessed messiah that he believes he is.'"
You're loving this aren't you.
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "I got around this problem by taking my own bottle caps with me, Anyone thinking Woke is a new thing must have a short memory.'"
They are classed as missiles
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| Quote: TimmySmith "You're loving this aren't you.'"
Really?
I've supported the club for 43 years.
My great uncle pulled on the red, white and blue, and my late father was on the Wakefield Schools coaching set up that went to Wembley in 1979. Some of the players he's coached went on to play for Wakefield.
I can assure you that I'm not enjoying any of it.
The only thing that matters here, is the state of our club. Some say without him, we wouldn't have a club, we wouldn't without fans either.
For the good of the club, on and off the pitch I feel, and also MC, remember in his statement on resigning, he did quote his health, the sooner he goes and a replacement CEO and investor is found the better.
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34595_1297504122.jpg [color=#BF0000:1qi6asc8]WAKEFIELD FANS ARE BORN, NOT MANUFACTURED.WE DO NOT CHOOSE, WE ARE CHOSEN. THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND NEED NO EXPLANATION. THOSE WHO DONT, DONT MATTER.[/color:1qi6asc8]
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| Quote: TimmySmith "You're loving this aren't you.'"
What a stupid idiotic sentence, I bet your loving this that much your jumping through hoops. You and others like you are the main problem, you accept mediocrity and hang on every word the messiah says. Absolutely pathetic
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| I'll tell you what's absolutely pathetic Mopsey, creating a fake account pretending to be MC just like your best buddy EW did only a few short weeks ago.
Bag me all you want, Poptart seems to be getting it in the neck at the minute because of his opinion too but what I don't understand is failure to accept reality. "Spend money, sign players, get MC out of the club"
We have no money therefore we can't "sign" players and MC is on his way out. I don't get what you're expecting here. The neanderthal approach won't solve anything.
As MC said, support the club. Or don't.
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| Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "What a stupid idiotic sentence, I bet your loving this that much your jumping through hoops. You and others like you are the main problem, you accept mediocrity and hang on every word the messiah says. Absolutely pathetic'"
When you say "accept mediocrity". Do you mean, support the club even when it's going through a hard time instead of belittling everyone and criticising everything with no suggested solution?
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| Complaining about Carter having a dig at 'some' negative fans seems like Robertson complaining about the linesman elbowing him.
If you feel like you can throw the negative comments at Carter, why be so upset when he throws something back?
I'm a supporter/fan and I don't feel like he's having a go at me.
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| Quote: TimmySmith "I'll tell you what's absolutely pathetic Mopsey, creating a fake account pretending to be MC just like your best buddy EW did only a few short weeks ago.
Bag me all you want, Poptart seems to be getting it in the neck at the minute because of his opinion too but what I don't understand is failure to accept reality. "Spend money, sign players, get MC out of the club"
We have no money therefore we can't "sign" players and MC is on his way out. I don't get what you're expecting here. The neanderthal approach won't solve anything.
As MC said, support the club. Or don't.'"
I do support the club, and will still be doing so , long after Michael Carter goes. I once supported Michael Carter too.
At the same time, I will hold my hand up, and admit a Sunday evening of madness, last November. Which I fully regret, and apologised at the time. I also rightly served a ban. What I will say about this moment of madness, I think it was one comment, was it was done to try and swerve some unnecessary attacks by private message via this board, to myself and my family, by a certain person, who is no stranger to having more than one user name, I still have a hunch this is still happening. I did at the time of my apology point this out to moderators, but the digs did still continue.
Anyway, this post is not about me, this is about Michael Carter and is "rallying cry" of our diminishing fanbase
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| I don't think anyone thinks there is a magic money tree, or that MC is not entitled to respond to criticism - although it is valid criticism being made in saying that the money we have has been spent very badly. I also don't think anyone minds the ask for positivity (although there is nothing to be positive about) - its the inverted commas "fans" kind of comments that he usually makes, and the general view that seems to be agree with me or your not a supporter. It comes across as utter contempt for those that support the club and spend money to help the cause. Its a ridiculous tone to take at any time, but even more so now considering the mess we are in. Supporters of other clubs are saying the same where the comments have been shared on social media.
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| Quote: RWB "I don't think anyone thinks there is a magic money tree, or that MC is not entitled to respond to criticism - although it is valid criticism being made in saying that the money we have has been spent very badly. I also don't think anyone minds the ask for positivity (although there is nothing to be positive about) - its the inverted commas "fans" kind of comments that he usually makes, and the general view that seems to be agree with me or your not a supporter. It comes across as utter contempt for those that support the club and spend money to help the cause. Its a ridiculous tone to take at any time, but even more so now considering the mess we are in. Supporters of other clubs are saying the same where the comments have been shared on social media.'"
But it isn't contempt for fans.
Whether you agree whether he should post his views in public is one thing but it's contempt for those sending hate posts to players and staff and it's contempt for those who make things up across social media (including this one) purely to put the club players or staff in a bad light
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| Quote: PopTart "But it isn't contempt for fans.
Whether you agree whether he should post his views in public is onevthing but it's contempt for those sending hate posts to players and staff and it's contempt for those who make things up across social media (including this one) purely to put the club players or staff in a bad light'"
Personal and Hate post are totally wrong but with what is going on at the club at the moment it is very hard to put positive spin on it meaning a lot of what is going to be said is negative and quite rightly so.
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| Quote: PopTart "When you say "accept mediocrity". Do you mean, support the club even when it's going through a hard time instead of belittling everyone and criticising everything with no suggested solution?'"
I think it means not being afraid to say what you see or what you’re feeling about the way the club is run and not being blinded by loyalty to a man whose decisions look to be sending us down to the championship.
Supporting the club and being critical of the way it’s run aren’t mutually exclusive!
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| Quote: The Avenger "I think it means not being afraid to say what you see or what you’re feeling about the way the club is run and not being blinded by loyalty to a man whose decisions look to be sending us down to the championship.
Supporting the club and being critical of the way it’s run aren’t mutually exclusive!'"
Absolutely. No one is beyond reproach.
But looking for ways to improve is not the same as complaining about everything either.
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| Well, that's 5 pages of negativity about the club from its "supporters" and not a word of a positive suggestion about how the situation might be resolved. Most of the signings were well received by the fans and the squad containing Jowitt, Hall, Murphy and Tanginoa looked quite capable of holding its own this season. Their absences have been well documented and pretty much unavoidable.
The ground developments are essential and not negotiable and our only way forward is to make sure these are completed and in service as soon as possible.
So come on then, you keyboard warriors, tell MC & JM exactly who they missed out on signing and what can be done, in a real life situation, to turn the rugby situation around.
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| Quote: FSW "Well, that's 5 pages of negativity about the club from its "supporters" and not a word of a positive suggestion about how the situation might be resolved. Most of the signings were well received by the fans and the squad containing Jowitt, Hall, Murphy and Tanginoa looked quite capable of holding its own this season. Their absences have been well documented and pretty much unavoidable.
The ground developments are essential and not negotiable and our only way forward is to make sure these are completed and in service as soon as possible.
So come on then, you keyboard warriors, tell MC & JM exactly who they missed out on signing and what can be done, in a real life situation, to turn the rugby situation around.'"
Spending close to £500k of our small budget on Gaskell, Lineham, Proctor, Antoni and Taufua is one of our major problems, I find it almost laughable when we are basically wasting a 3rd of our playing budget and yet the board bleat on about us pending less than everyone else.
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