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| I thought Smith was outstanding in the first half last night. I think the problem he has is we all expect him to be like Danny Brough, which he isn't. But his passing is sublime and he controlled our attack well last night in the first 40. I think he'd benefit from having a more dominant stand off, someone who takes on the line. I'm yet to be won over by Isaac John, but I do think he's the best we have at the moment. And this won't be popular, but I've yet to see anything from Kyle Wood that makes me think he's Super League standard. He looks lively when he comes on, but there's not enough substance from him in my opinion. I'd have Ellis on the bench, or even another forward if we think Aiton is capable of playing the full 80.
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| Quote ="vastman"Quote ="jack in the box"Simple answer, he's an import on big money and he's affraid to drop him so he is given a token place on the bench.'"
Or he's worried about collis getting injured again, but we can cover injuries without wasting mellers on bench
Might buy that with Smith but not with Mellors - I reckon it's because he doesn't trust Sykes who in fairness can implode big style - either way it's a duff decision.'"
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| Mellors played in the 2nd row last night when he came on.
I think Agar had him on the bench because he can cover 2nd row, centre and also wing.
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Let Ellis go and use the money for something else. Not the poor lads fault but it is now clearly a waste of everyones time having him in the squad.'"
He's got a three year contract, and the hooker merry go round seems to have stopped.
How much would it cost to 'let him go?'
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| With Wood, he started his first few games well but although still lively has only been solid.
Aiton played 80 at hooker yesterday I think. Ellis may get his turn soon. Releasing him would be silly as he would still count on wage cap and wouldn't free up a space. Moriano is proof that patience can win you a run of games.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"You obviously didn't go to the Leeds game where Wood tackled his heart out. John couldn't tackle his dinner. Hes so slow its unbelievable John in the 20's for me.'"
Thank god for that you are supporting the whinos
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"and there we have it hes not a kid if he had it we would be seeing it Shaun Edwards was 17 Sam Tomkins 17/18 Topo 18 Henry and Robbie Paul 17/18 Derek Fox 18/19 I could go on this is not a kid we are talking about hes 23'"
LOL some rather unfair comparisons to say the least.
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| Quote ="TRB"Haven't watched the game back but, having vented frustration that Wood was back on the bench and not starting, I watched his game closely and that was , by far, the worst game he has played for us. Teams target him all the time and, for the most part, he has stood his ground, but last night he seemed a liability and I wonder if Ellis might get a look in next game.
Smith was once again the architect of all the good things we do - John was solid but not spectacular. He will never be the next Toppo, but then who could be. I think patience will pay off with him in the end.'"
Yep agree with all that.
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| Quote ="TRB"Haven't watched the game back but, having vented frustration that Wood was back on the bench and not starting, I watched his game closely and that was , by far, the worst game he has played for us. Teams target him all the time and, for the most part, he has stood his ground, but last night he seemed a liability and I wonder if Ellis might get a look in next game.
Smith was once again the architect of all the good things we do - John was solid but not spectacular. He will never be the next Toppo, but then who could be. I think patience will pay off with him in the end.'"
Hurrah  normality returns.
People are quick to criticise the halves but they played their part in a very good first 40 minutes. The pack and the halfs have a symbiotic relationship and rely on the other to make their own games easier. The pack was dominant and the halves shifted us around the park and helped create chance after chance. In the second half neither were at it in the same manner and performance levels dropped for both. Smith and John are just inconsistent like the whole team are being, don't see the need to single them out. If players around them are performing in patches it's very difficult for them to be any different on their own, unless of course you have unrealistic expectations of their abilities
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| Quote ="W.T.W"Did you go to the game yesterday!?
I take it you didnt see Isaac run 60meter, from a standing start, to chase down Ashley Gibson.
Give the lad a break, hes 23 and traveled half way around the world and people are expecting miracles from the kid.
Isaac offers us much more options on the field, with him having the abillity to swing the ball wide, at a quick pace and willing to take on the line, more than just the simple drop of/inside ball.
As for "John couldn't tackle his dinner"... 156 tackles, 25 marker tackles seem to disagree with this comment!'"
He was running in treacle , he threw 2 vile passes to sykes 2 vile kicks he doesnt deserve a place in the team end of !
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| Quote ="El Rey"You should be peeling spuds and putting the dinner on
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"He was running in treacle , he threw 2 vile passes to sykes 2 vile kicks he doesnt deserve a place in the team end of !'"
Vile ... takes it to know it I suppose.
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| Quote ="vastman"Vile ... takes it to know it I suppose.'"
its the best you can come up with you know i am right again just admit it 
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"He was running in treacle , he threw 2 vile passes to sykes 2 vile kicks he doesnt deserve a place in the team end of  i'll be giggling for a while now.
thought john had a good game especially running at their line.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"He was running in treacle , he threw 2 vile passes to sykes 2 vile kicks he doesnt deserve a place in the team end of !'"
FFS go ansd watch Cas or Fev this club doesnt need people like you
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"FFS go ansd watch Cas or Fev this club doesnt need people like you'"
Think youve just said what everybodys thinking ! 
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| Ha ha. Sorry about that. For me Johns passing game has been his strong point but that went missing against Salford. He is not as good a player as i thought he was going to be. Apparently Wildie has been playing well in the halves for the 20s.
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| Have to agree that John had a real poor game and I was pleased to see him subbed for Wood. Unfortunately Wood then had probably his worst game so far in a Trin shirt. Definitely time to give Wildie a go.
Regarding Tim Smith, I thought he was up there with Aiton and Mathers as a contender for our Man of the Match.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"FFS go ansd watch Cas or Fev this club doesnt need people like you'"
Why because we will be a better team if we drop this clown? You are the cas fan if you want to keep him in !
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"FFS go ansd watch Cas or Fev this club doesnt need people like you'"
Why because we will be a better team if we drop this clown? You are the cas fan if you want to keep him in !'"
Certainly were not a better team when he left the field, in fact Trinity got worse.
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| don't really get all this John bashing tbh. Sure, he didn't have his best game at the weekend but i actually think he compliments Smith quite well.
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| Quote ="pocket 4's"don't really get all this John bashing tbh. Sure, he didn't have his best game at the weekend but i actually think he compliments Smith quite well.'"
NGBC needs a victim, he's a vile (his word) sad bully I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="vastman"NGBC needs a victim, he's a vile (his word) sad bully I'm afraid.'"
Im sorry but how does he justify his place answer me this? You are the biggest bully on here you think you are untouchable you are a belittling idiot who try to make people look like fools with your spellchecker/thesarus infront of you. We both know you work in a factory selling bog rolls so don't get ahead of yourself.
There were 2 of us on here that thought we would get a franchise I was one of them. The bloke who sold us up the river you will defend until you are blue for some reason, you won't have a bad word said against him; yet a bit of banter for a player who doesn't justify a place in the team you are up in arms; you are one strange man.
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