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Avenger do not know what you got against Mr Carter ,why don't you go watch Leeds ,Cas,in fact any other club because you do not support this club .Did you by a season ticket ,if so bet you asked for your money back .By the way Mr Carter did shovel the snow away with the fans ,

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I don’t have anything against Carter, however I don’t subscribe to the Cult that can’t see any fault in his character nor do I kid myself that he ‘saved’ the club because he loves Wakefield Trinity!

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Quote: The Avenger "I don’t have anything against Carter, however I don’t subscribe to the Cult that can’t see any fault in his character nor do I kid myself that he ‘saved’ the club because he loves Wakefield Trinity!'"

Lesser men would have walked away some time ago, with the amount of abuse and hostility directed at them, by a minority of so called supporters. Why anyone can direct so much bile towards the people keeping this club afloat at a time of great uncertainty, is quite beyond me. Please, will all you “faint hearts”, claim your season ticket refund from the club, and walk away, the rest of us will do whatever we can to help the club survive along with those in charge.,Remember, those who are not with us, are against us.

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Lesser men would have walked away some time ago, with the amount of abuse and hostility directed at them, by a minority of so called supporters. Why anyone can direct so much bile towards the people keeping this club afloat at a time of great uncertainty, is quite beyond me. Please, will all you “faint hearts”, claim your season ticket refund from the club, and walk away, the rest of us will do whatever we can to help the club survive along with those in charge.,Remember, those who are not with us, are against us.'"


What “bile” are you accusing me of here?

I know there are quite a few on here who hang on to his every word and won’t hear anything they perceive as negative about him but again, can you point out the “bile” in any of my posts?

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Quote: The Avenger "He did it for a photo shoot and nothing more, you can be as blindly loyal as you like but it doesn’t change that.

Bitter about what?

What have I blamed him for???'"


You are telling everyone you know why he did something when

1) you can't possibly know
2) he still cleaned the lines which kept the game on longer
3) the publicity we got as a club for him doing that was massive

So why is it a problem to you?

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Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Lesser men would have walked away some time ago, with the amount of abuse and hostility directed at them, by a minority of so called supporters. Why anyone can direct so much bile towards the people keeping this club afloat at a time of great uncertainty, is quite beyond me. Please, will all you “faint hearts”, claim your season ticket refund from the club, and walk away, the rest of us will do whatever we can to help the club survive along with those in charge.,Remember, those who are not with us, are against us.'"

Load of bunkum ,it’s a forum and forums are for debate as long it’s in good taste . Unless you know something I don’t you are still allowed to voice you opinion whether that is positive or negative in this country and on forums .We all want the same thing from this club and that is a competitive team ,unfortunately at this present time we are far from that prospect .So to expect fans to blindly follow a club that they invest their hard earned cash in only to watch it slowly go down the rattle and keep quiet is frankly ridiculous.

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Quote: PopTart "You are telling everyone you know why he did something when

1) you can't possibly know
2) he still cleaned the lines which kept the game on longer
3) the publicity we got as a club for him doing that was massive

So why is it a problem to you?'"


Why am I bitter?

What have I blamed him for?

Seems you and others want to be selective about what I wrote!

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The thing Is, everyone else in the lower reaches of the league looks to have improved.
They have moves and a structure.
What happened to the move when Grix made the extra man round the back and we scored a lot of tries off It?

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Quote: The Avenger "I think fans need to understand why Carter & Brereton took over the club and stop projecting their own love for the club and the game on them, Carter in particular.

Having invested a couple of hundred grand each into the club they were forced into a choice, let the club go into Administration and lose your money or take over the club! Make no mistake they both only wanted their money out but happily for Trinity fans that meant saving the club! There’s nothing wrong with their motives or reasons but let’s not get confused with why they stepped in.

Carter then found some gratification in the praise he received and he’s revelled in it at every opportunity. Do you really and honestly believe he was trying to shovel the snow off the lines during the Widnes blizzard? I can tell you 100% that had it not been in front of a packed hospitality block with a camera at the ready he wouldn’t have been anywhere near a shovel or snow.

He’s been good at stabilising our finances, maybe too good but don’t mistake him for a fan like you are, he isn’t'"


How do you know all this ? Have you ever met or spoken to Michael Carter ?

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Quote: Kettykat "Load of bunkum ,it’s a forum and forums are for debate as long it’s in good taste . Unless you know something I don’t you are still allowed to voice you opinion whether that is positive or negative in this country and on forums .We all want the same thing from this club and that is a competitive team ,unfortunately at this present time we are far from that prospect .So to expect fans to blindly follow a club that they invest their hard earned cash in only to watch it slowly go down the rattle and keep quiet is frankly ridiculous.'"

Constructive debate is good. What we get a lot of on here is not constructive. Some of the threads on here have simply become platforms to almost vilify anyone connected with running the club.i Social media has become obnoxious and unregulated, I never poison the dam thing, it concerns me that forums such as this could end up the same way. I’ve no problem with people having different views to others, my objection is the way some views are projected.

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Quote: The Avenger "I think fans need to understand why Carter & Brereton took over the club and stop projecting their own love for the club and the game on them, Carter in particular.

Having invested a couple of hundred grand each into the club they were forced into a choice, let the club go into Administration and lose your money or take over the club! Make no mistake they both only wanted their money out but happily for Trinity fans that meant saving the club! There’s nothing wrong with their motives or reasons but let’s not get confused with why they stepped in.

Carter then found some gratification in the praise he received and he’s revelled in it at every opportunity. Do you really and honestly believe he was trying to shovel the snow off the lines during the Widnes blizzard? I can tell you 100% that had it not been in front of a packed hospitality block with a camera at the ready he wouldn’t have been anywhere near a shovel or snow.

He’s been good at stabilising our finances, maybe too good but don’t mistake him for a fan like you are, he isn’t'"

I class MC as a friend and have been in his company plenty of times and spoken about all things rugby and you are way off, but you are entitled to your opinion as everyone else is.

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Quote: Big lads mate "I class MC as a friend and have been in his company plenty of times and spoken about all things rugby and you are way off, but you are entitled to your opinion as everyone else is.'"


People like avenger are parochial and think you can’t learn the game unless your born to it. After nearly a decade in the game at a very high level I think MC knows the game and that Trinity are very much a part of his life.

I think it was a very disingenuous thing to post by a poster who should know better.

It’s also a myth, JK is Cas through and through but imho is the best coach we have had since Ken Trail. The list of Trinity old boys who failed miserably is a long one, with only Toppo and Kelly having any real success,

Ditto the people running the club.

Most notable of all the players, name the last Wakefield born player who signed for the club and became a genuine legend. Its not Ellis or TJ, as yet it’s not your lad though maybe one day.

Nope it’s mainly men from the other side of the world who’ve kept Trinity alive. Frankly the last people I want in charge at Trinity are people from the not so Merrie city, they seem to be poison.

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Quote: vastman "

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Nigel Bell'"


Yup, that’s some time ago.

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Quote: The Avenger "I don’t have anything against Carter, however I don’t subscribe to the Cult that can’t see any fault in his character nor do I kid myself that he ‘saved’ the club because he loves Wakefield Trinity!'"


Whatever his motives were, he DID save the club, absolutely no doubt about it.
If he has made mistakes, which I 'm sure that he has, I guess that he's paid for the privilege.

If you or I were in charge, we could do the same. Mind you, it wont be me. No money and nowhere near enough nous to run a RL club.

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