Doh! I'll keep my nose out in future!

Quite an unsocialable lot on that nut job forum, can't have a conversation with them without there being cheap shots especially from that vinniedog

never easy at Cas and we will need to up our defence big time if we are to come away with 2 points I have little confidence in both our wingers under the high ball and thats where Mr Chase will put it
We also need a fit Tim Smith him and big Ali are our only 2 play makers I want to see a lot more from Aiton in that department because all i have seen to date is a tackling machine need more from the 9

That said I will go for 2 narrow wins over Easter

I don't agree, over the last 10 years it's been incredibly easy to beat Cas especially at Cas as the head to heads show.

What worries me is that eventually Cas will turn up and spank us - I'm hoping this isn't the moment but any kind of win would be very very gratefully received.

Now there is a point that will split opinion on here

I think what you see is what you get with Aiton and for all his fine qualities he can't control a game or provide attacking options. However I do think someone to provide some guile at dummy half in the Brad drew mould
is the main factor our team lacks.

I think if we get up for it we will win simple, It will be tight first half battle, but if we can open up a lead before half time, then defend well in second half and score a couple of trys in first 20 mins, the flood gates could open...
But if we go in half baked then Cas could get a ***

I will go with a 38-16 win, Ali lau man of match and Ben Cockyane Hat-Trick..

doesn't matter who wins to me for the following reasons:

- the game will be terrible due to the conditions
- it's a meaningless game as neither side have any depth to compete for silverware
- it's not the NRL (or even NEARLY in the same league, so I will be watching that)
- Cas are useless and I think they'll drag wakefield down (not very far it ahs to be said) to our level
- it's not worth £21
- it'll mean I have to avoid both the Cas and Wakefield forums for the one-eyed drivel that will be spouted
- I'd rather have bragging rights about trophies, not a very rare win.
- it's the lowest profile derby in Super League
- it's just not top level rugby

I'm a Canberra Raiders kinda guy these days

I have followed the ford for long enough really. I will still always hope they win, but I can't be bothered with the "well we are looking much stronger this year" tripe every season.

I think both our clubs dream of glory but it won't happen in our lifetimes.

If anyone can tell me that the Super League product is better than NRL then fire away...

Ultimately mate, cas have had £84 out of me this year and a ton of my money means more to me than a bog standard leave of rugby league.

Sadly it's taken me until I've spent it to realise this.

The money I spend goes on the wrong things. They club won't exist fairly son because we have been over-frivelous with money. For a long time we have been punching far above our weight, and the time is quickly approaching where it's no longer possible.

Over the years I have put a lot of my money into both Castleford AND wakefield (when Cas are away) and what have I been paying for????? Wakefield went bust and had to re-open and cas are going the same way. Whoever has been in receipt of my money has just wasted it, and they are not deserving of another penny from me.

Especially when I can pay £2 and watch a decent normanton team

Someone like Andy Ellis perhaps.

Okey Dokey I will keep battling away at Trin and hope for the best.. WTID

each to their own...

I just have better things to spend £21 and my weekend on than a poor standard of rugby

We need to be on top of the forward battle as the conditions will be better for Cas than Wakey.As we all know we arnt a bad side when the ground is dry but at the moment the grounds being as they are we cant play the game that we are best with.If we take all the steam out of the pack then we will go well as the forwards have proven they can match any pack as they did against Hudds and Catalan.

These are by far your best point, tbh the rest just sounds bitter.

It's not depth it is the will, especially where the CCup is concerned. Too many mercenary Aussie and non local players in both teams who simply don't get the romance of it. The cup was always the best chance for clubs like ours to compete and now it's just become an away day for some clubs and a can't be bothered game for others. Wakefields history in the CCup through the SL era has been an utter disgrace. Now the CCup has been diluted by our desire to ape all things Austraian and it would seem no one can be bothered any more, teams seem to stumble to the final now..

Not sure why it ranks as low as it does in the eyes of the media - I do think it matters to a lot of Cas and Wakey fans - some deluded people from both camps try to pretend Leeds is the big one but it isn't, sadly that's almost giant killing these days.

I get what you're saying Vasty - and maybe it purely is bitterness... I don't see how though, with relegation gone and the play off system too long winded to give either of us (who MAY finish 8th) a chance, it is an important game other than being able to go "harar we won we won" ...i've never been one to class "bragging rights" as which of our teams are the least poor on one given afternoon.

but I totally agree - every single one of our foreign imports are either past their best or have failed to make it in Aus. and Aussies (for whatever reason) just don't get that fans thrive on the history of the CC

Chase - didn't make it
Smith - didn't make it
Poore - past his best
Millington - didn't make it

the list goes on - but all culminating in my reasoning that we are two below average teams playing for very little. Our only concern is existing as clubs. It's like two galapagos turtles going into battle...