Exactly. This needs explaining to the stupid woman sat in the stand screaming for him to "pack your bags and get back to Leeds" 3 mins into the second half. Is this a record, 43 mins into a debut???

As poor as we were, and as much as a none event it turned into, some of the things getting shouted (mainly from folk sat in the east stand!) were just daft. It was embarrassing!
Tim Smith was getting abused everytime he touched the ball by a few in there. The guy is one of only a couple of players we have that has a little bit of extra class but he cant win the games on his own and certainly not when Ollie goes back to the days when he cant hold the ball and we have a completion rate well below average.

On another note has Jamie Rooney been giving Ben lessons on kick offs?

West stand we wish

Edited for accuracy!

He did not sound too enthusiastic either on the interview on Wildcats TV on Thursday. Heard a rumour yesterday that he doesn't actually want to be here and wanted to go to Hull KR. I can't see the point of him being here to be honest. Our season is shot, surely it is time to give Cowling, Grayston a shot and see if they're up to it - let's be honest neither of them can be any worse than Smith was yesterday.

If he's here to put himself in the shop window he didn't do himself any favours yesterday.

Time for a complete change I think for Huddersfield.

Cockayne
Fletcher
Sykes
Cowling
Fox
John
Smith
Amor
Aiton
Raleigh
Lauititi
Kirmond
Washbrook

Ellis
Wilkes
James
Mariano/Johnson/Trout/Walshaw

Put Wildie in there instead of John and I may be tempted to go and watch that team against shudds

Isn't Cowling still recovering from injury? That said I agree its time to shake it up a bit and see what a few guys can do. Guys like Ben Kaye who got thrown in at Wigan, did ok and hasn't been seen again, Matt James who looked like he had something to offer then disappeared and Walshaw & Trout need an extended chance to show what they can do. Same goes for Andy Ellis who has to be a better bet than the championship-standard Kyle Wood. The season is now an uninspiring battle for 11th, we may as well see what these guys have to offer.

Tony

Morton (had a cracking match in the reserves can't do any worse IMO)
Cockayne
Sykes
Fox/Fletcher

Wildie
Smith

Amor
Aiton
Lauitiiti
Washbrook
Kirmond
Johnson

James
Mariano
Ellis
Wilkes/Raleigh

I was dubious about putting Smith straight into the side for a number of reasons. Lack of first team action, limited time with new team mates and more importantly it sends the wrong message out to the fringe players who are busting a gut to get in the match day squad that the coach does not rate you.

but he clearly doesn't rate them. There is no implied message there.

Or, for the sake of balance, that he didn't want to throw them to the wolves by putting them out against the most brutal and clinical side in SL?

If you bring a bloke in on loan for only a month you have to play him otherwise why bother getting him.

Either bring players in for a longer period or not at all in my view. If it’s a short term injury then use the squad, that’s what it’s there for. Smith has been playing u20’s football, same as the fringe squad so his level of performance is hardly going to be much more than they they’re at currently.

we was truley out played by a better team but there is at least 12 teams in league better than us.andrew glover has done a great job at the club but crowds will start to dwindle while that muppet is coaching us action needs to be done we where better last season whith a on paper a lesser squad,

If you bring a bloke in from the start of the season on a hefty contract and then send him off to play champ rugby then you either have an issue with him or you are clueless.

Ellis is a quallity player and is better than Wood/Wildie but can't get a game.

He has obviously done something or can't/won't do something that the coach asks. There can be no other logical reason due to agars priority of having to pick the best side to win games. I doubt we'll ever find out, but I'd doubt it's a clash of personalities, you don't have to like someone to work with them

Agar has his favourites and always picks em,not interested in youth policy,or anybody else s signings [sorry mr elston fact under qualified and over payed 70k a year utter madness sort it out please!

Spot on.

Thought we were right up there with them for the first 20 minutes, even had them somewhat rattled at one stage. Couple of great hits from Aiton on Lauaki and Tomkins. Could have had a few more points in the first half with a bit more composure.

Second half was a case of being totally outclassed!

Wasn't it Raleigh that left Lauaki on the deck after a big hit?

I agree though - we were up in their faces in the first 20 and stifled a lot of their plays; conversely, we seemed to panic when the line was in sight and as a result, made some poor decisions or executed good decisions poorly.

The first 20 the players certainly let them know they were in a game then we stood off and watched them instead of keeping in their faces.The second half well did we come out it was a normal second half Wakey showing.The only time this season when we have been the better side in the second half was against Hull when they started to tire and then the doubts set in.

I think you're definately right that the team is under achieving from the names we have on paper but I think R.A. should have a second full season and if we are not 3/4 places higher than we are now then we'll need a change of coach. He got Aiton, Sykes, Cockayne, Washbrook etc so isn't that bad at recruitment he just needs to do it with the addition of two class props to lead what we've already got.

Some said we didn't need Sykes and were proved wrong. L.Smith has been pure class in the past and is still only 25. If he settles in and wants to stay with WTW & the promise/security of a 3 year contract to see in NM then it will be shrewd business by Agar and more strength in the centre position.

You must watch a different L Smith to the one i've seen over the years, he's average at best.

We all see things in a different light but he's not a centre, never will be.

Keep Smith and Sykes and I reckon we need a full-back (who can catch), a stand-off who can create / run into gaps and a prop who leads by example - I would be happy with that.

The question is, who goes to make room (well at least one is obvious based on that list)!