i am not having a go at either james elston or richard agar. i am merely playing through a possible and not totally unrealistic scenario. much in the same way we do when we say, if warrington get a good lead in the first 50 minutes on sunday i see no way back for us.

richard agar was not exactly in demand, what do you suppose his other options were? humour me.

i don't think that either agar or elston are getting any grief of any size on here. i do think however that it will come pretty quickly for agar should results continue in the same manner as they are doing. the players seem well motivated and confident despite our run of losses, if we lose the next two or three games then i think morale will suffer in the squad and on the terraces too.

i too see some big improvements in the club, but to pretend that blind faith in the club and it's employees (of which elston and agar are two) is the way we're going to get the best for wakefield trinity would suggest you've forgotten how we got in this position in the first place.

like all trinity fans i want the best for the club, and for the supporters. at least we can agree on that?

Absolutely agree, together we ARE stronger

My memory must not be what I thought because I seem to remember Pearson had already relieved Agar of his coaching duties at Hull and his career over there was hanging by a thread. I also remember every other SL club had got their man and the only SL coaching job open was at wakey. It was a buyers market and if Agar wanted another SL job he could have had the choice of us or the dole.

Lets face it he hardly had a good track record. A one year 'probationary' deal was the way to go.

Obviously he is highly thought of by Messers Glover & Elston. Maybe you should ask them why, although I i've said, it certainly gives a level of stability to the club, which is better than chopping and changing.

Well if all we're doing is exploring hypothetical situations, errrrr... he could have taken that director of rugby job that Adam Pearson allegedly didn't offer him when he told the world that Agar wouldn't be leaving Hull FC for Wakefield... he still had another year of his contract to run.

OK I see your point. Also like you I want the best for the club so lets hope that come the end of the season we don't have to chop and change to move forward.

Agreed

I'm still not sure if i read the thread title correctly? James Elston is doing a fine job and as far as i can see has assembled a promising squad. There will be one or two who may not live upto some people's expectations but that's the same at any SL team.

I don't believe he wanted to be in charge for recruiting, but such was the position we were in (no head coach) he had no other choice especially considering Widnes had a blank canvas to work from and were competing for similar players.

The club as a whole is steadily improving in the majority of area's, there's still work to be done, but it's moving in the right direction. 2 or 3 results haven't gone our way and we've area's within our team which will need improvement, but guess what, that's professional sport!

It was said tongue in cheek to provoke a reaction from one or two of you lot, seems like it worked hehe

Its not obvious at all. JE signed RA and AG is relying on that. Andrew knows nothing about rugby league or RA coaching abilities.

Its Elstons call, along with most of the signings, If Agar fails he'll blame the fact he did not sign is own players.

3 years is just crazy and no other club would have offered Agar that, would they.

If you look at the club now, a year on from club 1873 taking over. James Elston is doing a fantastic job! nearly 9,000 for a game against Huddersfield?? unheard of in living memory!

Agree, the situation we found ourselves in going from not being in SL to getting the nod, was not the most ideal situation as far as planning and recruiting for this season but when all said and done we've ended up with a decent squad, albeit with one and two missing pieces and I personally feel very optimistic abut the future and direction the club is heading.

it has already been stated but i couldnt agree more, this season was and is about building. pick up wins where we can and expect solid performances, but there shouldnt be any pressure put on agar or elston at this moment in time.. i think personally it will all come together in the next couple of years and well have the best wakefield side for a long time. not only that, from what i know all the work done in the background is improving and the attendances getting higher, i think we really can look towards a brighter future

I think this is a classic example of a decision being made which was extremely foolish and naive. No matter how this season or next goes for you guys, Agar will be here to stay because I would assume that they are probably paying him £100k a year, and it would be a hefty pay out to get rid if it came to it......he is there to stay !

wait until next month when Kath Hetherington is on the board........